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Offline EDD_7

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Luna Class ( Kophjaeger's Model Converted For BC )
« on: April 19, 2011, 04:55:55 AM »
Recently i requested permission to convert Kophjaeger's Luna Class for the NanoFx Model Viewer, and so he was really really helpful and sent me the model in .obj format.

Thus i thought as i have it i'll ask if i can convert it for bridge commander, And so here i am with the luna class in .Nif format with full permission. Also he has sent me a previously unreleased slip stream variant of the Luna class, so its is definatly an exclusive ship :D

I have to just convert the textures to .tga and fix the registry problem i'm having and i think its ready for being ingame. These models are high detail using 3 2048x2048 textures and 1 1024x1024 texture for the registry.

So big thanks to Kophjaeger, And as ever have some pictures :D enjoy
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Re: Luna Class ( Kophjaeger's Model Converted For BC )
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2011, 05:00:04 AM »
And the slipstream variant as i couldn't add it to the first post

enjoy
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Re: Luna Class ( Kophjaeger's Model Converted For BC )
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2011, 05:52:18 AM »
Yeah Kophjaeger is a great guy + modeller. Good to see it over in bc :D

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Re: Luna Class ( Kophjaeger's Model Converted For BC )
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2011, 09:45:51 AM »
Yay I can hang mine up for now until I learn how to model properly LOL This is going to take a class for me unfortunately :S

EDIT:  Ack meant to say he's done a beautiful job on the new girl :)
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Re: Luna Class ( Kophjaeger's Model Converted For BC )
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2011, 02:20:06 PM »
I've always really like the Luna class. Glad to see another one coming to BC.
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Re: Luna Class ( Kophjaeger's Model Converted For BC )
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2011, 06:47:39 AM »
I've started matching up the ID map to the rest of the hull but i've encounted a problem which makes it impossible to do. (The progress so far in attached image).

The problem is that the mapping of these section of the model are overlapped in the UV map. The only way i can fix that is to either 1 get rid of IDs completely, 2 Re map those sections, or 3 somehow make everything except for the text transparent.

the 3rd is an option i want to try but i don't know how to make the transparency work in BC models. Does anyone know?
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Re: Luna Class ( Kophjaeger's Model Converted For BC )
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2011, 07:26:43 AM »
just use no registries
It makes massive battles realistic
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Re: Luna Class ( Kophjaeger's Model Converted For BC )
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2011, 08:01:00 AM »
I used to make registries outside of Illustrator and then transfer them in with a transparent background.  It's really simple if you create your registry with a black background, and then save the file in .png format.  Voila!  Text only.
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Re: Luna Class ( Kophjaeger's Model Converted For BC )
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2011, 08:21:59 AM »
Quote from: aaron067 on April 20, 2011, 08:01:00 AM
I used to make registries outside of Illustrator and then transfer them in with a transparent background.  It's really simple if you create your registry with a black background, and then save the file in .png format.  Voila!  Text only.

Already got them to that stage (with 19 seperate registries) , but its the conversion to .tga that i can't seem to keep the transparency as it just changes it into an alpha channel.

Heres and example, i've reduced the size to 512x512. First one is Png and the second is .tga.
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Re: Luna Class ( Kophjaeger's Model Converted For BC )
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2011, 03:44:57 PM »
I'm loving the looks of this great job
Orthos please when ur done :dance
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Re: Luna Class ( Kophjaeger's Model Converted For BC )
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2011, 06:52:52 PM »
Hey dude, I can help you with the ID's I've done it before with the Hawkeye Sovereign, my Steamrunner class, and DJ's galaxy (which I will NOT release for those about to ask :P).

EDIT:  Never mind I can't do option 3 all I know how to do is make ID Maps...

EDIT2:  And if I'm not mistaken there's a way you can use the Alpha channels as a transparency.  It's what the EF2 crew models do...Let me see if I can pull it up on my photoshop :)
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Re: Luna Class ( Kophjaeger's Model Converted For BC )
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2011, 06:49:43 PM »
Why do you need to convert the registries to .tga?  I just drag the .png file into Illustrator, select "Flatten Transparency" and choose to maintain the Alpha Transparency.  You could also use Rastersize and select transparent background. 
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Re: Luna Class ( Kophjaeger's Model Converted For BC )
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2011, 08:46:09 PM »
Quote from: aaron067 on April 21, 2011, 06:49:43 PM
Why do you need to convert the registries to .tga?  I just drag the .png file into Illustrator, select "Flatten Transparency" and choose to maintain the Alpha Transparency.  You could also use Rastersize and select transparent background. 

Well BC only uses .tga textures for their ship models...

That and if I'm thinking you're thinking that you could just copy/paste said registries on the textures...then no he couldn't.  The saucer alone is mirrored, so it would look like NCC-8-CCN (Imagine that the CCN is reversed physically and you'll get my drift ;))
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Re: Luna Class ( Kophjaeger's Model Converted For BC )
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2011, 08:35:46 AM »
Would be nice to have a GOOD Luna class model in BC for a change. Can't wait! :D
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Re: Luna Class ( Kophjaeger's Model Converted For BC )
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2011, 10:40:23 AM »
However despite all my ideas Kophjaeger solved my problem and remapped the registry so now they work :D heres an example of the newly converted model. So prepare yourselves for a luna with 19 registries lol.

i have yet to convert the textures from .dds to .tga so thats next

oh and a spec map and glow test in the nanofx viewer :D
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Re: Luna Class ( Kophjaeger's Model Converted For BC )
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2011, 11:04:53 AM »
Conversion from .dds to .tga is really easy. DDS textures are essentially tgas, just a special file extension of nVidias. I used to do modding for Legacy as well ^_^.
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Re: Luna Class ( Kophjaeger's Model Converted For BC )
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2011, 11:46:17 AM »
Quote from: ChiefBrex on April 22, 2011, 11:04:53 AM
Conversion from .dds to .tga is really easy. DDS textures are essentially tgas, just a special file extension of nVidias. I used to do modding for Legacy as well ^_^.

Yeah i'm constantly converting from .tga to .dds. Its just going through the model and renaming all the extensions to .tga thats going to take time. I'll leave the other registries and either work on them at the end or release them at a later date.

Also i think this is a perfect opportunity to try Cord's Diffuse glow technique :D 
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Re: Luna Class ( Kophjaeger's Model Converted For BC )
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2011, 11:52:01 AM »
Go with whatever you wish man LOL I can't wait to play her in game :)  (I may even retexture her myself for my own personal thing :D)

Either way this puts mine to shame for now :) (with emphasis to FOR NOW)
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Re: Luna Class ( Kophjaeger's Model Converted For BC )
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2011, 12:11:41 PM »
The TGA Alpha registries, dont work properly in bc...ive tried...


if uve found a way...please...do tell
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Re: Luna Class ( Kophjaeger's Model Converted For BC )
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2011, 05:24:24 PM »
I must say, that model looks phenomenal in the NanoFX viewer. I'm impressed.
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