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Re: WIP Ship Designs - Cronus Class (the excelsior replacement)
« Reply #40 on: July 23, 2011, 07:45:52 PM »
Excelsior with Galaxy saucer and Sovereign nacelles?

The mix of the three looks quite... weird, at current. The nacelles are alot bigger than the hull for one thing, and the saucer rests on top of a neck which is far too long.
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Re: WIP Ship Designs - Cronus Class (the excelsior replacement)
« Reply #41 on: July 23, 2011, 07:53:58 PM »
Yeah, in my sketches, i had galaxy class engines mounted, but it was too tng.

But this is wip. The final result isn't ready for the next month(s). I prefer to draw first everything so i have a basic, and then start modifying and tampering with it.



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Re: WIP Ship Designs - Cronus Class (the excelsior replacement)
« Reply #42 on: July 23, 2011, 08:07:25 PM »
i would suggest making the thinner part of the secondary hull a little thicker, it looks like one good torpedo blast could shear off the entire warp nacell assembly..

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Re: WIP Ship Designs - Cronus Class (the excelsior replacement)
« Reply #43 on: July 23, 2011, 09:02:10 PM »
I recommend adding an extra 150 meter sot the Hull.

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Re: WIP Ship Designs - Cronus Class (the excelsior replacement)
« Reply #44 on: July 24, 2011, 08:18:37 AM »
actually, it looks like shifting into warp one would snap the ass end off!

other suggestions...scale up the excel e-hull or scale DOWN the sov nacelles, and get rid of that "captain Proton" wing on the saucer!
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Re: WIP Ship Designs - Cronus Class (the excelsior replacement)
« Reply #45 on: July 24, 2011, 11:55:19 AM »
Looks good.

I'd say make the neck about 25% shorter, just to give it a sleeker look though. :p

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Re: WIP Ship Designs - Cronus Class (the excelsior replacement)
« Reply #46 on: July 24, 2011, 03:21:02 PM »
I recommend adding an extra 150 meter sot the Hull.

secondary hull?

Looks good.

I'd say make the neck about 25% shorter, just to give it a sleeker look though. :p

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i would suggest making the thinner part of the secondary hull a little thicker, it looks like one good torpedo blast could shear off the entire warp nacell assembly..

you're right!

actually, it looks like shifting into warp one would snap the ass end off!

other suggestions...scale up the excel e-hull or scale DOWN the sov nacelles, and get rid of that "captain Proton" wing on the saucer!

Lol, right to the core.

Well, if you compare the galaxy class, you can say she has ridicilous small engines for something huge. Or the excelsior class has also big engines. But i'll have a look. The cpt proton stuff is actually the hangar bay. But please, wait for the other views, but the rest of you guys are right and the requests will be done!

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Re: WIP Ship Designs - Cronus Class (the excelsior replacement)
« Reply #47 on: July 27, 2011, 08:57:29 PM »
Did some dorsal work.

I took the requests and comments from the last post and already fitted them on the side view.


So if we compare this to the original excelsior, we know that the above (where we see numbers now) are normally impulse engines, but this isn't. These is the shuttle bay. Shuttles or fighters can fly out (other exit) and land through the cargobays.

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Re: WIP Ship Designs - Cronus Class (the excelsior replacement)
« Reply #48 on: July 27, 2011, 09:08:21 PM »
Either the nacelles are too close together, or the oval saucer is throwing the design off. Have you tried a circular Ent-D styled saucer?
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Re: WIP Ship Designs - Cronus Class (the excelsior replacement)
« Reply #49 on: July 27, 2011, 09:21:20 PM »
Yeah, i know what you mean. I think i need to work with the nacelles more. Sometimes if i see it from the top, it reminds me of a excelsior prototype of the wolf 359 battle.

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Re: WIP Ship Designs - Cronus Class (the excelsior replacement)
« Reply #50 on: July 27, 2011, 09:32:14 PM »
Do you also have to use Sovereign nacelles? Could they have a similar look, but not be exact?
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Re: WIP Ship Designs - Cronus Class (the excelsior replacement)
« Reply #51 on: July 27, 2011, 09:47:02 PM »
The ones i'm using, look indeed like the sovereign, but if you start comparing details, they are different (the basics are there, but the details are different, but i can change it some more)

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Re: WIP Ship Designs - Cronus Class (the excelsior replacement)
« Reply #52 on: July 27, 2011, 11:49:20 PM »
the saucer looks too big for the ship now, maybe extend the pylons diagnonally backward so the nacells outer edge lines up with the outer edge of the saucer? so as to make the ship look more like an evolution of the excelsior and less of a kitbash, cuz at the moment when i look at the design all i can think of is kitbash.

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Re: WIP Ship Designs - Cronus Class (the excelsior replacement)
« Reply #53 on: July 28, 2011, 04:18:14 AM »
Put it next to the excelsior so you can compare details and change in stuff so they look in proportion. Just a thought.

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Re: WIP Ship Designs - Cronus Class (the excelsior replacement)
« Reply #54 on: July 28, 2011, 07:11:52 AM »
You guys aren't easy, are you :P


Don't look at the top side of the saucer lines, they are now not in proportion, because i changed the hull size.

It looks better to me.

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Re: WIP Ship Designs - Cronus Class (the excelsior replacement)
« Reply #55 on: July 30, 2011, 07:20:00 PM »
You guys aren't easy, are you :P

meh, it happens, but in the end we tend to be our own worst critic as artists  ;)


ive been stalking this design for awhile and i have some thoughts: that straight line on the underside aft section of the eng hull totally throws off the "curves" of the design, but not soo much as a DRASTIC curve as the original excel, something subtle, but still noticable at the same time, alternatively, you could slide the top portion of that line back somewhat and do the curve. (if that makes any sence at all)

the back of the "neck" could use the same touch as well. take where the back neck meets the hull, and slide it aftwards slightly and add a subtle graceful curve to it, reason being is you have the curve of a galaxy saucer, meeting a dead straight line wich throws the whole look off, that and its the same for the underside of your impulse housing,same as well with the fore of the neck.

other than that my only other complaint is the pylons, BUT i really cant think of any other course of action to take with them other than giving them the sovvy "wing" style wich would not look good IMHO.

keep it up though, i like how this is turning out!  :thumbsup:

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Re: WIP Ship Designs - Cronus Class (the excelsior replacement)
« Reply #56 on: July 30, 2011, 07:27:14 PM »
i still think those pylons should be diagonally swept back, the pylons being straight just dont look right to me...

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Re: WIP Ship Designs - Cronus Class (the excelsior replacement)
« Reply #57 on: July 30, 2011, 08:16:39 PM »
@cyan1d3

i like the changes you did! I will add them also to the new stuff i've drafted.

Also about the pylons i hear, if i start changing the pylons into a diagonal stuff, it doesn't really look anymore like an excelsior upgrade but more a prototype sovereign.

Again, thank you and i will add the changes!!

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Re: WIP Ship Designs - Cronus Class (the excelsior replacement)
« Reply #58 on: July 30, 2011, 08:22:26 PM »
@cyan1d3

i like the changes you did! I will add them also to the new stuff i've drafted.


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Re: WIP Ship Designs - Cronus Class (the excelsior replacement)
« Reply #59 on: July 31, 2011, 07:48:51 AM »
by sweeping the pylons diagonally back i only mean what you can se on the side view, dorsal view wise the ship looks ok.