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Bones · « **Reply #100 on:** May 19, 2012, 06:02:15 AM »

I like the secrecy, it makes the waiting even more exciting ;)

FarShot · « **Reply #101 on:** May 19, 2012, 01:04:16 PM »

I'd prefer not to know anything before it comes out. Lets me judge it and enjoy it without prejudice. I should stop reading this thread then.

Shadowknight1 · « **Reply #102 on:** May 19, 2012, 02:10:09 PM »

Quote from: Bones on May 19, 2012, 06:02:15 AM

I like the secrecy, it makes the waiting even more exciting ;)

Isn't that Scotty's line, Bones? ;)

I don't want to know everything, but they haven't told us anything besides the main cast. They could at least give us a little something.

FarShot · « **Reply #103 on:** May 19, 2012, 02:29:09 PM »

Really, the biggest thing I don't want to hear is who the Cumberbatch's character is. Who hear can honestly tell me that they haven't already been forming preconceptions about the supposed Khan? I'd much rather not know than have a foreboding that he won't be near as good as Montalban.

Shadowknight1 · « **Reply #104 on:** May 19, 2012, 02:47:52 PM »

My only problem with Khan is that most people automatically associate him with The Wrath of Khan, which even if this movie were to be a re-hash, it wouldn't be of TWOK, it would be of "Space Seed". And considering we've got Peter Wellers on board as a supposed "secondary" villain of sorts, that doesn't fit with "Space Seed".

Honestly, they could just give us the title and I'd be happy. Calling it Star Trek XII is only marginally better than "Untitled Star Trek Sequel".

Darkthunder · « **Reply #105 on:** May 19, 2012, 03:46:43 PM »

Although technically, it's neither "Star Trek XII" or "Star Trek 2". Next movie is supposed to be titled without a number as far as I know. Similar to how the TNG movies were done (ST: Generations, ST: First Contact etc)

Bones · « **Reply #106 on:** May 21, 2012, 02:41:26 AM »

Quote from: Shadowknight1 on May 19, 2012, 02:47:52 PM

My only problem with Khan is that most people automatically associate him with The Wrath of Khan, which even if this movie were to be a re-hash, it wouldn't be of TWOK, it would be of "Space Seed". And considering we've got Peter Wellers on board as a supposed "secondary" villain of sorts, that doesn't fit with "Space Seed".

Honestly, they could just give us the title and I'd be happy. Calling it Star Trek XII is only marginally better than "Untitled Star Trek Sequel".

There is also one outstanding issue here, presence of Khan in the movie does not bind it to be re-hash of neither Space Seed nor TWOK, it might be completely different story, after all it's alternate universe, everything has changed with arrival of Nero, what could be seen in STXI, I'm counting on completely different introduction to Khan story not to mention about different approach to it.

Quote from: Shadowknight1 on May 19, 2012, 02:10:09 PM

Isn't that Scotty's line, Bones? ;)

I don't want to know everything, but they haven't told us anything besides the main cast. They could at least give us a little something.

might be, but it was not intentional

let's just say great minds think alike

Tuskin38 · « **Reply #107 on:** May 29, 2012, 06:55:11 PM »

The Villain is not Khan.

http://www.digitalspy.ca/movies/news/a384340/simon-pegg-benedict-cumberbatch-is-not-khan-in-star-trek-2.html

Shadowknight1 · « **Reply #108 on:** May 29, 2012, 07:07:00 PM »

As much as I'd like to believe Pegg...this is a J.J. Abrams movie. J.J. loves misdirection.

086gf · « **Reply #109 on:** June 01, 2012, 04:02:41 PM »

Also, the hats for the dress uniforms are straight out of WW2.

captain_obvious · « **Reply #110 on:** June 01, 2012, 04:10:56 PM »

Quote from: 086gf on June 01, 2012, 04:02:41 PM

Also, the hats for the dress uniforms are straight out of WW2.

Could be worse, they could be straight out of Hornblower xD

FarShot · « **Reply #111 on:** June 01, 2012, 06:04:54 PM »

I still don't think it's Khan. Simon Pegg is going to get lots and lots of flack if he's wrong. To use sketchy wording to misdirect is one thing. To say "Cumberbatch is not Khan" and get caught lying? That would be one of the most idiotic things an actor could do, to both his career and public perception.

I'm sorry Shadowknight, but I definitely disagree with you on that.

eclipse74569 · « **Reply #112 on:** June 01, 2012, 06:30:31 PM »

That and has anyone noticed that there is a Delta Shield on the left breast of Cumberbatch's outfit?

Shadowknight1 · « **Reply #113 on:** June 01, 2012, 06:44:52 PM »

Quote from: FarShot on June 01, 2012, 06:04:54 PM

I still don't think it's Khan. Simon Pegg is going to get lots and lots of flack if he's wrong. To use sketchy wording to misdirect is one thing. To say "Cumberbatch is not Khan" and get caught lying? That would be one of the most idiotic things an actor could do, to both his career and public perception.

I'm sorry Shadowknight, but I definitely disagree with you on that.

Lying didn't hurt Michael Bay's reputation. "Megatron is dead, he won't be in Transformers 2." Then the trailer came out and clearly showed Megatron and Bay ate crow.

I want to be wrong. I really do. But I just don't think they could resist it. When non-Trekkies think of Trek villains, they think of Klingons and Khan. I haven't seen any ridge-heads.

And eclipse...Khan wore a Starfleet uniform at one point in "Space Seed". http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x22hd/spaceseedhd479.jpg

FarShot · « **Reply #114 on:** June 01, 2012, 07:43:43 PM »

Counterpoint:
Everyone hates Michael Bay anyways.

Shadowknight1 · « **Reply #115 on:** June 01, 2012, 09:03:48 PM »

Quote from: FarShot on June 01, 2012, 07:43:43 PM

Counterpoint:
Everyone hates Michael Bay anyways.

Counter-counterpoint:
Not everyone, or they wouldn't let him keep making movies. See Ninja Turtles and Transformers 4.

mckinneyc · « **Reply #116 on:** June 02, 2012, 10:55:58 AM »

I don't hate Bay. He helped a childhood dream come to life

FarShot · « **Reply #117 on:** June 02, 2012, 11:59:01 AM »

He did a terrible job of it. All of his movies are critical flops.

Michael Bay's reputation is basically:
Make big budget explosion filled movies that have cheesy lines, bad acting, and the like, and still make money because at least they have good special effects.
Examples:
Armageddon
The Rock
Pearl Harbor
Transformers 1, 2, and 3

Darkthunder · « **Reply #118 on:** June 02, 2012, 01:56:01 PM »

Quote from: FarShot on June 02, 2012, 11:59:01 AM

He did a terrible job of it. All of his movies are critical flops.

Michael Bay's reputation is basically:
Make big budget explosion filled movies that have cheesy lines, bad acting, and the like, and still make money because at least they have good special effects.
Examples:
Armageddon
The Rock
Pearl Harbor
Transformers 1, 2, and 3

While I don't care for -all- of Michael Bay's movies, atleast 2 moves in your "example list", I rather enjoyed and have seen a few times. In addition, I enjoyed both Bad Boys movies.

Tuskin38 · « **Reply #119 on:** June 02, 2012, 02:12:14 PM »

I liked The Rock and Pearl Harbour.

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