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Re: Trek XII - Images, Videos, Discussion, ect... (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #680 on: May 21, 2013, 10:10:20 AM »
I think it is just before warp so it isn't stretched yet.
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Re: Trek XII - Images, Videos, Discussion, ect... (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #681 on: May 21, 2013, 06:51:14 PM »
Just got back from seeing it, loved it

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Re: Trek XII - Images, Videos, Discussion, ect... (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #682 on: May 21, 2013, 08:03:32 PM »
I think it is just before warp so it isn't stretched yet.
Pretty sure the nacelles are the same apart from the fins and those new glowy bits in the indents on top of the cowl.

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Re: Trek XII - Images, Videos, Discussion, ect... (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #683 on: May 22, 2013, 03:50:02 PM »
saw it.  just came back.
[size="7"] WHOA[/size]

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Re: Trek XII - Images, Videos, Discussion, ect... (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #684 on: May 22, 2013, 04:05:41 PM »
The warp stretch effect is indeed in the way but here is a list i've compiled of visually confirmed and possible changes of the refit.

confirmed refit changes:
very wide impulse engines
phasers recessed until needed like the NX and Kelvin
hull panel azteching is much more orderly
nacelle fins split into four segments instead of three; are a different shape aswell
stationary/at impulse bussard glow is now much more of a solid bright blue glow instead of the deep dark blue of before
saucer spine has a different more softer glow on the sides than before; no longer segmented
indented sections on top of the hood of the nacelles are different and now have a glow
the triangular vents on bottom of nacelles near pylons no longer have a glow
bulbs at very rear of nacelles have been modified slightly

possible refit changes:
thinner saucer rim
pylons may be less curved
nacelles may be narrower
aft of nacelles may have been enlarged/raised
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Re: Trek XII - Images, Videos, Discussion, ect... (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #685 on: May 22, 2013, 06:10:10 PM »
saw it.  just came back.
[size="7"] WHOA[/size]

dump the stupid hats.

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There never was an even numbered movie curse...it was the ODD numbered movies that were considered crap.

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Re: Trek XII - Images, Videos, Discussion, ect... (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #686 on: May 22, 2013, 07:07:00 PM »
tho i havent seen it yet, this is kinda what i would expect...
film sounds about as lame as i figured lol

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Re: Trek XII - Images, Videos, Discussion, ect... (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #687 on: May 22, 2013, 07:37:20 PM »
...I hate using this phrase cause it just seems like a way to get out of explaining a point of view, but as ridiculous as some of that sounds, it DOES work on screen.  At least it did for me.

BTW, Kudos to JJ for showing that even 200 years into the future, percussive maintenance is still a popular practice.

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Re: Trek XII - Images, Videos, Discussion, ect... (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #688 on: May 22, 2013, 07:45:15 PM »
tho i havent seen it yet, this is kinda what i would expect...
film sounds about as lame as i figured lol

Star Trek Into Darkness: The Spoiler FAQ

Let's admit that after the disappointment of the first film we all knew nothing EPIC was going to come from this director nor his henchman of mindless writers.  But if you treat it like a Parody of Star Trek (which it is) then it allows one to relax and simply take it in.

I wasn't about to fall for the same thing twice. Look at what we had in the first film.

-Scotty is beamed up into water slice and dicer-  Galaxy Quest...come on...
-They promote a Cadet to Captain...

-Cartoon Size Giant Hands- Literally
-Dopey Bad Guy- "Hi Chris"

This Film was just a bit more serious...(tiny bit)




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Re: Trek XII - Images, Videos, Discussion, ect... (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #689 on: May 22, 2013, 08:05:20 PM »
-They promote a Cadet to Captain...

Kirk was a Lieutenant before being promoted to First Officer, and later replacing Spock as Captain. If you're gonna hate on the JJ movies, atleast have your facts straight.
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Re: Trek XII - Images, Videos, Discussion, ect... (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #690 on: May 22, 2013, 08:15:52 PM »
That FAQ looks at the movie in the worst possible way, ignoring explanations given within the film itself, and just builds up on its own egotistical pompousness to fuel itself.

I am so fucking sick and tired of people bashing on this movie for every single thing and they don't even have the balls to turn around and do the same for the rest of Trek.  It has one of the most thought provoking plots out of the last half dozen films, and everyone just summarizes it into "two hours of brainless action".  Its not the best Trek film, but it is well worth the 8s or 9s out of 10 it gets.  You people ignore all the good points, find the trivial bad ones, and blow them up way out of proportion.

I'm tired of stupid idiot trekkies who claim they love Gene Roddenberry, then completely fly in the face of his philosophy of tolerance and bash everything new.  Hypocrisy, all of it.

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Re: Trek XII - Images, Videos, Discussion, ect... (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #691 on: May 22, 2013, 08:18:37 PM »
Everyone is walking a fine line right now... so please everyone try and keep things civil.
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Re: Trek XII - Images, Videos, Discussion, ect... (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #692 on: May 22, 2013, 08:23:02 PM »
Kirk was a Cadet when he was promoted to first officer...
even that leap in promotion, ahead of every other officer on that ship who outranked him, was lame and unrealistic...


and yeah - Neb is right... seriously guys - stop getting all mad and pissy because some people think this nuTrek is lame...  i happen to be one of them...
and everyone is entitled to their opinion and observation...  drop the sour attitude at others directly, guys - please...
no need to sarcastically tell someone to get their facts straight or call anyone a hypocrite because they dont love JJverse as much as you...

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Re: Trek XII - Images, Videos, Discussion, ect... (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #693 on: May 22, 2013, 08:24:58 PM »
Sorry Jimmy but Kirk was a Lieutenant, Cadet is not a rank. This was proven in a screen cap during his free fall in the first film.

But yeah lets not start a pissing match over what we like and dislike... we can have a civil convo about it.
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Re: Trek XII - Images, Videos, Discussion, ect... (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #694 on: May 22, 2013, 08:27:09 PM »
whatever the rank, who cares lol
if i outranked Kirk (as im sure there were many officers who did), i'd be like "dude, wtf?  i was next in line!" lol :P

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Re: Trek XII - Images, Videos, Discussion, ect... (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #695 on: May 22, 2013, 09:27:41 PM »
Kirk was a Lieutenant before being promoted to First Officer, and later replacing Spock as Captain. If you're gonna hate on the JJ movies, atleast have your facts straight.

I prefer my dose of humble pie seasoned with explanation.

Do you mean that Cadet Kirk held a rank of Lieutenant in the Academy or that he graduated (which I didn't see before they left for Vulcan) and his first rank was lieutenant?
Because while I can understand the accuracy issue it still amounts to the same thing.  Kirk was only Trainee hours before and he was put in command of a Starship over dozens of more qualified individuals and then Given official command which seems absolutely ludicrous every way I look at it.

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Re: Trek XII - Images, Videos, Discussion, ect... (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #696 on: May 22, 2013, 11:14:11 PM »
Try saving an entire planet.  Not much precedent for that.

Not to mention Pike explicitly states he gave him the command, with most of Starfleet's senior command in opposition to it.

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Re: Trek XII - Images, Videos, Discussion, ect... (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #697 on: May 22, 2013, 11:48:14 PM »
I prefer my dose of humble pie seasoned with explanation.

Do you mean that Cadet Kirk held a rank of Lieutenant in the Academy or that he graduated (which I didn't see before they left for Vulcan) and his first rank was lieutenant?
Because while I can understand the accuracy issue it still amounts to the same thing.  Kirk was only Trainee hours before and he was put in command of a Starship over dozens of more qualified individuals and then Given official command which seems absolutely ludicrous every way I look at it.

Check this out for yourself;



As has been said repeatedly, Cadet is merely a title that means you haven't graduated from the Academy yet. There are several examples in canon where someone graduated from the Academy with the rank of Lieutenant, and some even serving aboard active starships As a Lieutenant, without graduating. Case in point, Lt Saavik, Lt Valeris. Kirk (in the Prime Timeline) graduated from the Academy as a Lieutenant as far as I recall. Pike promoting "JJ" Kirk to First Officer is the equivalent of a Battlefield Promotion to Lt Commander. When Spock steps down as acting Captain, Kirk rightly assumes command.
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Re: Trek XII - Images, Videos, Discussion, ect... (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #698 on: May 22, 2013, 11:52:15 PM »
Ok, calmed down a sec.  This is getting to be too heated.  Guys it's a movie.  there's no need for all of the huff and puff.  Just relax have a cool beer and enjoy the fact we have Trek.  I am!
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Re: Trek XII - Images, Videos, Discussion, ect... (WARNING: SPOILERS)
« Reply #699 on: May 23, 2013, 12:26:24 AM »
Ok, calmed down a sec.  This is getting to be too heated.  Guys it's a movie.  there's no need for all of the huff and puff.  Just relax have a cool beer and enjoy the fact we have Trek.  I am!
I'm perfectly calm.  And others are making my points for me, for once.

Already preordered Into Darkness.  Decided to go with the pre-order with the replica phaser.  The original release is nice and all...but this one can switch from kill to stun.  The original stunt phaser could not.  A phaser permanently set to kill doesn't feel right to me.

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