Star Trek Into Darkness - Images, Videos, Discussion, etc

[mckinneyc]

If I had the choice between only owning TMP or one of the JJ films it would be TMP every single time. May not be explosions every five seconds that audiences and studios want today but it has solid plot, beautifully made visual effects and strong acting from every single character

[captain_obvious]

If I had the choice between only owning TMP or one of the JJ films it would be TMP every single time. May not be explosions every five seconds that audiences and studios want today but it has solid plot, beautifully made visual effects and strong acting from every single character

oh those special effects are for the most part, timeless.  I still think that the klingon attack run is among the best around.  The only better special effect scene is the saucer crash scene in generations. 

*punches in face*  Haters gonna hate!

*dodge*.  But yes, it's an ugly brick of a boat that has no teeth

[086gf]

Just realised something else. The UFP flag over the Kelvin Archive have the design that we all know. The flag used at the end has a cogwheel design around the center. The new Starfleet.

[Shadowknight1]

captain_obvious, I wasn't including the Next Gen movies in the "not enough action" set.    Though Insurrection could have used a bit bigger budget and a better story.  Hate Insurrection.  I used to think it wasn't so bad, but then on my run through all of Next Gen, it got MUCH worse by comparison.  And people say Nemesis is terrible.

As for your comments about the Enterprise, I disagree, but starship design is never an objective thing.  I personally do not like the Enterprise-D all that much, but I'm very much in the minority on that. *shrugs*

But I do agree that CBS's inactivity towards Trek on TV is what's hurting the franchise.  Yes, it can live on the big screen, but it won't ever be as engaging because it can't work as well at weaving a long story(see Worf's arc with the Klingons throughout...well, both TNG and DS9 or the Dominion War).  I love my movies, but I'd kill to have a show again.

mckinneyc, my problem with TMP lies primarily with the pacing, not the action or effects or acting.  It's very, VERY slow.  As much as I appreciate the views of the Enterprise, it didn't need to take over 5 minutes to dock with the ship and just as long to LEAVE SPACEDOCK.  I can back out of the driveway faster than that ship moved out of spacedock.

[ShaunKL]

I've gone through the movie again but haven't been able to go through for an analyzation viewing.  Has anyone noticed if the helm console was improved for ID?  And if you have or could take a screenshot, would you mind sharing?

[mckinneyc]

I agree about pacing of TMP Shadownight, it seems films now are at the other end of the extreme to TMP, fast fast fast, bang bang bang.

[FarShot]

I have big hopes for 2015's Trek film, assuming they are doing one.  Passing up on the opportunity to tribute to the entire franchise would be a big missed opportunity.

[ShaunKL]

That would be 2016, no?

[Shadowknight1]

There's been talk from Orci and Kurtzman both saying that Paramount wants a new movie out by 2016 for the anniversary.  I am fine with this.

[ShaunKL]

It's such a long time to wait... maybe we could get a TV special of some kind before then?  Just use existing assets (Nothing would need to change) and make a Christmas special(Not Doctor Who-like, more like ABC and all the Shrek, Toy Story, Agents of Shield stuff they get up to.) for 2015.  The comics help take off the edge but it's still a long time to wait.

(Inb4 people mention all the old gaps in Trek content.)

[FarShot]

WILEY TOLD ME 2015 ON TS YESTERDAY.  BLAME HIM!

[ShaunKL]

If they release the movie in 2015 then they ought to bring out a series in 2016.  

[Shadowknight1]

It's such a long time to wait... maybe we could get a TV special of some kind before then?  Just use existing assets (Nothing would need to change) and make a Christmas special(Not Doctor Who-like, more like ABC and all the Shrek, Toy Story, Agents of Shield stuff they get up to.) for 2015.  The comics help take off the edge but it's still a long time to wait.

(Inb4 people mention all the old gaps in Trek content.)

Less time than between Star Trek and Into Darkness...

Will not be directed by JJ though, he's pretty much nailed that coffin shut.  Gonna be busy trying to make Star WARS awesome again.  I wish him luck.  As bad as Berman screwed up Trek, Lucas screwed Wars up even worse.

[captain_obvious]

captain_obvious, I wasn't including the Next Gen movies in the "not enough action" set.    Though Insurrection could have used a bit bigger budget and a better story.  Hate Insurrection.  I used to think it wasn't so bad, but then on my run through all of Next Gen, it got MUCH worse by comparison.  And people say Nemesis is terrible.

Yeah.  The only redeeming quality in insurrection was the times when a little line from the cast made me smile (the boobs line, as well as the "I just did" line). I liked the idea of the face stretching death, but it was overcooked compared to the skullcrush in ID.  Too visible.  The sona bridge was pretty cool imo.  I mean, how pimp must you be to go through space with a goddamn COUCH for a captains chair? xD
  Not good for a film when it's the little things that are great and not the big things i.e. the film itself!

As for your comments about the Enterprise, I disagree, but starship design is never an objective thing.  I personally do not like the Enterprise-D all that much, but I'm very much in the minority on that. *shrugs*

meh.  We all have to be a minority in *something* at sometime.  At least yours is disliking the D

But I do agree that CBS's inactivity towards Trek on TV is what's hurting the franchise.  Yes, it can live on the big screen, but it won't ever be as engaging because it can't work as well at weaving a long story

In that respect it's a hell of a lot like a show that I've recently taken to watching called "game of thrones".  GOT was originally going to be a set of films, but someone somewhere (wisely imo) shot that idea down and insisted on a tv format.  For a big, quick dose of action you make a film.  To tell a good story, you make a tv series.

mckinneyc, my problem with TMP lies primarily with the pacing, not the action or effects or acting.  It's very, VERY slow.  As much as I appreciate the views of the Enterprise, it didn't need to take over 5 minutes to dock with the ship and just as long to LEAVE SPACEDOCK.  I can back out of the driveway faster than that ship moved out of spacedock.

I hear that.  The directors cut (the one with some CGI, done about 1999-2000 ish) helped a lot in that regard.  A pity that the HD remasters of TMP didn't do the directors cut

[captain_obvious]

Goddamn, took me near 20 mins to post that.  Was getting "connection problems" message.  Happened yesterday as well at about the same time.

[086gf]

What does the Vengence feature say about her weapons?

[Tuskin38]

So the new Khan mini series is going to explain why Khan doesn't look like.. well Khan, snippit

http://www.thetrekcollective.com/2013/10/khan-1-preview.html#more

[ShaunKL]

Caught a glance of the helm and navigation consoles over my repeated viewings.  It's still that absolutely ridiculous glass over a digital clock.

[Tuskin38]

This is a thing

http://www.startrek.com/article/captain-jane-tiberia-kirk-takes-command

[captain_obvious]

This is a thing

http://www.startrek.com/article/captain-jane-tiberia-kirk-takes-command

Yep, knew about it a couple days ago.  There's also one where the enterprise becomes sentient.