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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #620 on: July 29, 2010, 12:43:26 AM »
That proves nothing. Like I said before, only believe the news as it appears on the official Doctor Who site.

I don't mean any offense to you Billz for this, but I gotta ask...

How long did it take for the official Doctor Who site to confirm the rumors that David Tennant was in fact not returning?  IIRC the rumors were around long before the site ever put it up, months even.
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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #621 on: July 29, 2010, 04:52:22 AM »
NO big deal i know no offense was meant by him, but this does kind of seem like this news cast has some merit, only time will tell.

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« Reply #622 on: July 29, 2010, 07:43:06 AM »
Well, I like to sit on the official news that he has signed up for another series.

I'd rather he didn't go though. The Doctor is almost out of regenerations with no apparent hope of somehow acquiring more. I'd rather his life cycle didn't end in the near future.

On an entirely different note: Michael Gambon and opera diva Katherine Jenkins have been cast in the Christmas special. And that is from the BBC website. :P
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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #623 on: July 29, 2010, 08:25:03 AM »
Well, I like to sit on the official news that he has signed up for another series.

I'd rather he didn't go though. The Doctor is almost out of regenerations with no apparent hope of somehow acquiring more. I'd rather his life cycle didn't end in the near future.

On an entirely different note: Michael Gambon and opera diva Katherine Jenkins have been cast in the Christmas special. And that is from the BBC website. :P

I don't want Doctor Who to end either, but like all TV greats, it has to end sometime. It may be a flagship show for the BBC, but I doubt even they would be willing to keep it running for another 10 years or so, provided that the next 2 actors to play the Doctor after Matt Smith will each get a 5 year contract.

It's about time Michael Gambon was cast in Doctor Who! And I've never seen Katherine Jenkins act in anything, but she's hot, and that'll do until I can judge her acting! :)
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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #624 on: July 29, 2010, 11:20:35 AM »
I suspect that Matt Smith and co signed up just for two series as it was a gamble, the audience may not take to him as David Tennant was about for a long time and made it his own plus there was a new man in charge. Plus in a years time will the viewers be there? They are all questions going through the BBC minds.

Without a doubt this series was a success and a big hit with Matt Smith just as good as Tennant but also unique yet somewhat familiar. Should the Christmas special be a ratings hit and next season do as well as the last one I could see the Beeb commissioning more and fingers crossed Smith will stay.

As for there is one regeneration left I recall that it has been mentioned in years gone by that the 12 regeneration limit was decided on by the Time Lords to prevent individuals becoming immortal as they have on occassion offered and even forced regeneration onto people. Now with the Time Lords gone completely it is possible The Doctor can regenerate as much as he wishes to then die when he wants, and seeing as he gets older he acts younger I doubt he'll go anytime soon.

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« Reply #625 on: July 29, 2010, 12:36:43 PM »
There's two regenerations left. Some rumours also say that the limit was because of the amount of stress that regeneration put on the Time Lords mind and over time, it cause detrioration and instability.

However, like Star Trek, Doctor Who is only canon if it is on screen, so we are lucky there. :)

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« Reply #626 on: July 29, 2010, 01:26:58 PM »
An interesting theory I came across regarding the Doctors regeneration on the TARDIS Wiki site:

"Rassilon again became president in the Last Great Time War; it would seem that he was awakened from his eternal sleep and regenerated to renew himself for the war. It is possible that Rassilon granted every participating Time Lord a new regenerative cycle to avoid losses in the war and resurrected others, presumably with full regeneration cycles like the Master.

This also gives future producers of the show the ability to go beyond Thirteen Doctors."
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« Reply #627 on: July 29, 2010, 03:34:38 PM »
Well, in the likely chance that the Beeb don't break the 13 lives rule, there is always that famous last line of the 4th Doctor in Logopolis to bring some closure to the series as a whole:
"It's the end, but the moment has been prepared for."

Then again, Steven Moffat is a clever sort of writer so if there is a way to bend the 13 lives rule and still have it keep to the continuity in way, he'll find it. :)
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« Reply #628 on: July 29, 2010, 07:33:07 PM »
Like I've said it'll all depend on where the show is in terms of ratings and popularity. Lately the Beeb haven't flogged the life out of popular shows like they used to, Only Fools and Horses springs to mind there.

Life on Mars was extremely popular and they ended it on a high and did the same with its spin off.

I could see if ratings start to slip next series them doing a year of specials.

Again Moffat is an excellent writer so if the show keeps on the way it is and has been I can see him finding a way round the 13 lives. If I recall the Master took a human host once to get around it.

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« Reply #629 on: July 30, 2010, 11:48:09 AM »
If I recall the Master took a human host once to get around it.

He did, twice in fact. The first time he took the body of Nyssa's (late 4th Doctor's companion for those who don't know) father and seemed to be relatively fine. The other time was in the Movie, where he was already dead and took the body of Eric Roberts which began to decompose cos the body was essentially, dead. :P I'm not entirely sure the Doctor would go for either of those methods however, he's a lot nicer.
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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #630 on: September 08, 2010, 03:06:42 PM »
*sighs* I just got done watching The End Of Time again...and I have to say I keep crying when 10 regenerates into 11 :( not ashamed to admit it!
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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #631 on: September 08, 2010, 04:45:20 PM »
I get so teary eyed at that too!

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« Reply #632 on: September 12, 2010, 05:47:46 PM »
*sighs* I just got done watching The End Of Time again...and I have to say I keep crying when 10 regenerates into 11 :( not ashamed to admit it!

I watched it again on the same day as you!

Yes indeed it is sad.

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« Reply #633 on: September 12, 2010, 09:28:57 PM »
Hehehe!! Anyone seen the footage of the Proms?

There was a montage showing all of the Doctor's regenerations. Guess who got the loudest claps and cheers.

They also had an old Dalek and the new Dalek come on. Guess which one didn't get a single clap or cheer. xD

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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #634 on: September 13, 2010, 12:28:26 AM »
Hehehe!! Anyone seen the footage of the Proms?

There was a montage showing all of the Doctor's regenerations. Guess who got the loudest claps and cheers.

They also had an old Dalek and the new Dalek come on. Guess which one didn't get a single clap or cheer. xD

Tennant and I'm guessing Matt Smith's got the "boo's" of the crowd :P
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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #635 on: September 13, 2010, 03:23:07 AM »
Any chance of a youtube link?

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« Reply #636 on: September 13, 2010, 05:48:19 PM »
Kirk a link isn't need, just look up 'Dr Who Proms' and instantly numerous videos emerge! I watched the short version of it on BBC 3 the other night and it was great fun.

Watched the full version today and even better. Loved the Regeneration montage and the music to go with it and yes I even cheered with the crowd at you know who's!  :yay:

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« Reply #637 on: September 13, 2010, 06:25:58 PM »
I did, that's why I asked, because . . .
instantly numerous videos emerge!
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« Reply #638 on: September 13, 2010, 06:55:40 PM »
That's right, Tennant and it was the new Dalek that got neither clap nor cheer. Infact, people were pittying the old Dalek when it was sent to be exterminated.

Full prom:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00ts1dw/Doctor_Who_at_the_Proms_2010_Extended/

This is from the short version:


And the Dalek:

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« Reply #639 on: September 13, 2010, 08:40:09 PM »
That's right, Tennant and it was the new Dalek that got neither clap nor cheer. Infact, people were pittying the old Dalek when it was sent to be exterminated.


That's because the "old" new Dalek (Ironside) was much cooler than the "new" new Dalek (iDaleks, Smarties Daleks, Power Ranger Daleks, Rainbow Daleks, whatever you want to call them, lol).

And yes, the Proms were indeed excellent. I'm jealous that 2 of my mates got to go. :(
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