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BC Forums => BC Modding => Topic started by: Furyofaseraph on February 12, 2009, 04:25:08 PM
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Just a quick knock out of a fighter idea. It's meant to fill the spot of Space Superiority during the TMP era.
Based losely on the VF-19 Excalibur from Macross.
(http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8857/fedfighter2jc6.jpg)
Obviously she still needs textures and some phasers/mini-torps.
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Looks like a jet with TMP warp nacelles glued to it.
I suggest you be more 'adventurous' with your designs.
IMHO.
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Looks like a jet with a TMP warp engine glued to it.
I suggest you be more 'adventurous' with your designs.
IMHO.
Granted.
Star Trek fighters are always a pain to design though. It's just a quick, see-what, design.
edit: here's a back view just for an overallness
(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3319/fedfighter3wn7.jpg)
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Reminds me of the Great Fox thingy from Starfox :lol:
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Hadnt thought of that
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Snub the nose a lot to look like something off a shuttle maybe? Star Trek: Shattered Universe (knock on wood) is a great resource for TMP era fighter craft.
I do love the rest of the design, just not the F-14 style nose.
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It has a feel of the fighter from space above and beyond :lol:
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Was about to say that Limey.
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Reminds me of the Great Fox thingy from Starfox :lol:
LOL, yeah it really does, doesn't it? :P
Looks interesting enough, though I agree with the above statements. I'd definitely suggest modifying the nose a bit to give it a bit more of a shuttlecraft feel to it. Make that area bulkier to better balance the feel of the craft to the impulse manifolds. :) Keep it up.
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Making it have a shuttlecraft-like front kind of ruins the flow of it. I know that it doesn't feel very Trek-like right now, but textures will fix that. I'm suddenly reminded of that silly game with the planet-side strategy. New worlds i think it was. Basically it was workbees hovering on the ground, IIRC. Bad way to go.
Shattered universe, IIRC as well, had the same fighter designs as Starfleet Command - which to me, while cool, just don't work.
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Personally, I don't like ventral mounted nacelles in fighters. But that's just me.
As for the nose, to make it more TMP, I'd make it look like the front of a MiG-17, and instead of an intake, have a mini deflector.
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WZ45 did something much like that, with the deflector in the nose. I'm not a fan of the concept. I like to think that those little cut outs on either side of the nose are micro-deflectors. Its the same idea I had for the miranda's lack of deflectorness.
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/1796/mirandadeflectorit3.jpg) Hey look, things that resemble the things around the deflector of the connie! :-P.
I think that half of you who say "nah" will reconsider when I cloth her.
I'm working on a smaller interceptor to this space superiority. However, as I'm sitting here typing this, my girlfriend is yawning and doing her best to not poke me, so its time for me to get goin' :-).
More will be shown later.
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As soon as I saw it, before reading your description, I knew it was a Macross fighter. Looks pretty cool.
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Actually, I read somewhere that ships without any discernible deflector dish have a deflector grid. Same basic concept, only it's something that's cast throughout the ship's hull rather than projected from a single dish near the bow. Also, I doubt those two little things the Miranda Class has really holds much purpose beyond the aesthetic demonstration of displaying the similarities between her and her Constitution Class cousins. I could be wrong though.
Anyways, can't wait to see what you do with this fighter thing. :]
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Actually, I read somewhere that ships without any discernible deflector dish have a deflector grid. Same basic concept, only it's something that's cast throughout the ship's hull rather than projected from a single dish near the bow. Also, I doubt those two little things the Miranda Class has really holds much purpose beyond the aesthetic demonstration of displaying the similarities between her and her Constitution Class cousins. I could be wrong though.
Anyways, can't wait to see what you do with this fighter thing. :]
well Nothing really has much of a purpose beyond aesthetic demonstration of similarities between her and the Connie. Still, it makes sense in my head.
(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/630/fedfighter4yi4.jpg)
The smaller interceptor. Probably going to ditch the rear wings.
also note that these nacelles might end up being placeholders. I took them from the Shuttlecraft, but I think they might need to be replaced on both this and the other fighter.
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To be honest the Nacelles are the best part. The one in the picture above me actually looks pretty good. I'd give it something a little more reinforced in the canopy, though.
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Put Miranda/Reliant-style Phaser cannons on the fins.
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Put Miranda/Reliant-style Phaser cannons on the fins.
That is a fantastic call.
Unfortunately I had a power outtage and my laptop has been acting wonkey ever since. I'm trying to fix it, now, but I might have to restage. If it gets to that point, I ought to be able to put my current drive as my slave. :-(.
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I'm ok with ventral or dorsal mount but I agree the nose would look better more like a 50s or 60s "scoop" intake fighter like an mig-15 through 19 or a Sabre jet with a deflector..kind of like..ah..I think theres one called a wasp or a hornet which is from some other game...if you get the TMP Ark Royal carrier it comes with the fighter I'm talking about...this one could have a smaller deflector
Personally, I don't like ventral mounted nacelles in fighters. But that's just me.
As for the nose, to make it more TMP, I'd make it look like the front of a MiG-17, and instead of an intake, have a mini deflector.
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The model you are referring to comes from Starfleet Command. That fighter is the exact reason why I want new fighters, lol.
I will give the scoop thing a try when I get the computer back up and running, but to be honest, I don't think it will work well. I'll post pics.
I'm ok with ventral or dorsal mount but I agree the nose would look better more like a 50s or 60s "scoop" intake fighter like an mig-15 through 19 or a Sabre jet with a deflector..kind of like..ah..I think theres one called a wasp or a hornet which is from some other game...if you get the TMP Ark Royal carrier it comes with the fighter I'm talking about...this one could have a smaller deflector
Personally, I don't like ventral mounted nacelles in fighters. But that's just me.
As for the nose, to make it more TMP, I'd make it look like the front of a MiG-17, and instead of an intake, have a mini deflector.
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OK fair enough :D
The model you are referring to comes from Starfleet Command. That fighter is the exact reason why I want new fighters, lol.
I will give the scoop thing a try when I get the computer back up and running, but to be honest, I don't think it will work well. I'll post pics.
I'm ok with ventral or dorsal mount but I agree the nose would look better more like a 50s or 60s "scoop" intake fighter like an mig-15 through 19 or a Sabre jet with a deflector..kind of like..ah..I think theres one called a wasp or a hornet which is from some other game...if you get the TMP Ark Royal carrier it comes with the fighter I'm talking about...this one could have a smaller deflector
Personally, I don't like ventral mounted nacelles in fighters. But that's just me.
As for the nose, to make it more TMP, I'd make it look like the front of a MiG-17, and instead of an intake, have a mini deflector.
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I just started my format and reinstall. All my data should be safe, as I swapped out the drive for another one and then I'll slave it back in later.
Wish me luck.
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A scoop at the front would be very Viper like (BSG).
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A scoop at the front would be very Viper like (BSG).
Lol, another reason not to do it >.<
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looks neat, and well constructed too.
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You could do an under the nose type deflector, like the F-16.
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Looks very similar to an XB-70 Valkyrie bomber.
This was a mid 1960's experimental Mach 3+ bomber that was way ahead of its time.
Only 2 were made but the project was scrapped due to cost and maintenance. The 2nd one was involved in a mid-air collision with a F-104 Starfighter during a demonstration flight.
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Yeah, read about that. Cool plane, sad story though.
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my 3ds max is back up
(http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/6615/nahbd5.jpg)
eh.
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I know you don't really like it, but I do. I envisioned the nose section like the Protector from Galaxy Quest. This is very close--maybe a little too long, but very close.
I know you're probably tired of my input--I get that from a lot of people :P.
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I imagined that Federation fighters are more like a shuttle variant with a curved/rectangular cockpit nose section. I like the wing sections. If they were angled, they would remind me of the Argo shuttle.
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why not try a dauntless type deflector??
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meh, I still don't think that nose works, it's not that the nose isn't very trek like, but it doesn't fit with that boxy body, I suggest making the nose a little more boxy, like the nose on a Viper.
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I don't know about a boxy nose either.
Trust your local FoaS :-) Thing's come together in the textures.
Tried the cut-off nose further up. still not working for me
(http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/6615/nahbd5.jpg)
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Here's a shot of all three with the original fuselages.
(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4845/allfightersww9.jpg)
I played around with a new fuselage idea. Unfortunately its a little too Andorian for my tastes.
(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/20/allthreeve4.jpg)
Trying something else.
(http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/5729/otheruv2.jpg)
I think im going to go for the third idea, but I need to rework the meshsing.
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I like the middle/left one in the top pic the most.
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The last one looks like an Aquatic/Xindi ship.
And I like all of them.
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They is all very beautiful....
Me gonna go cry now. :violin
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actually I think the last one is starting to go in the right direction, try something like that with the round nose, maybe a F/A-18 like cobra hood
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That last W.I.P definatly looks better. The other W.I.Ps, still look like F-18s with TMP nacelles glued to them, lol.
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That last W.I.P definatly looks better. The other W.I.Ps, still look like F-18s with TMP nacelles glued to them, lol.
Dunno where you're getting that idea from. More F-15'ish to me.
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They look like F-18s to me too. They're good but, well, they look just like airplanes with nacelles.
Now, if they could go GERWALK... :P
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I like em all. :)