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Title: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: Bat66wat6 on July 20, 2012, 09:40:57 PM
I know there's an abundance of discussions on the life of the forum so i'd held back on making yet another thread on it but honestly, i'm amazed! Seriously amazed  :eek Before now, the last time I visited this site was just less than a year ago in this thread http://bc-central.net/forums/index.php/topic,8750.80.html (http://bc-central.net/forums/index.php/topic,8750.80.html) with my last posts time stamp being 12 October 2011. October 20 freakin' 11 and I come here in July 2012 and it's still alive!

I come back after 10 entire months expecting the URL to be unregistered or at least an electronic ghost town but find Today post dates from the like of USS Sovereign and Defiant. I make a thread and get a reply from one (or both) of them within one single day!

Seriously, i've been on quite a few gaming sites that run sections for old games (C&C and the like) and they run for a long time but die within a couple of years; maybe five at max. In my experience the death of the site is preceded by the abscence of some knowledgable gurus that everyone looks to for answers and so are well known (respected) figures but here, even after all this time, the likes of Sovereign and Defiant still, seem to, check the site daily or every other day.

Then there's JimmyB76 and Nebula and all the other names that posted back in 2011 still here. Incredible! This games extremely moddable but damn! A 10 year old game with, compared to what todays game software is capable of, an incredibly old engine.

It's like this site can't die. It's invincible. VR gaming and neural interfaces could take off into the mainstream and still this site would live. BC until the end of days!

 :salute3:  :muahaha:  :salute3:
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: tiqhud on July 21, 2012, 08:43:04 AM
Quite frankly, we got REALLY great people around, besides it is a great game, without our people BC would not have lasted.
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: Nebula on July 21, 2012, 10:48:17 AM
:P I've been around since the start, since BCU was BCN and that was in early 2002. XD
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: eclipse74569 on July 21, 2012, 10:53:55 AM
:P I've been around since the start, since BCU was BCN and that was in early 2002. XD

Bragger :P

I have to agree with Tiq.  It's because we have a great community that is the reason we've been here for so long :)
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: JimmyB76 on July 21, 2012, 01:26:57 PM
:P I've been around since the start, since BCU was BCN and that was in early 2002. XD
yep same lol
i've been on this scene like every day for 10 years, and we're not the only ones still lurking around since those oldschool days :)
we've been rocking it since and no end in sight so far :)
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: Darkthunder on July 21, 2012, 03:23:13 PM
I've not been around quite as much. But almost.

I vividly remember the days of BCU, but i'm not entirely sure I was around in the BCN days. I got hooked on Bridge Commander in 2003, after learning of the "MPMP" mod. Been friends with Darkshimmer and his gang ever since :)
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: Bat66wat6 on July 21, 2012, 03:26:36 PM
Quite frankly, we got REALLY great people around, besides it is a great game, without our people BC would not have lasted.
Well, no sh**! Here on this site there are real programmers (Defiant/Sovereign) as well as those with the artistics flare to create ingame content like models and textures.

It's really hard not to be impressed even with the games massive customizability factored in. Right now i'm really into this game again because of its customisability but there's no doubt i'll mod and play the game then get bored or simply drift onto something else. You guys though, damn you are dedicated! All this time i've been out doing other stuff you've remained here.

Such is the dedication and diversity of people involved in this game that i'm now beginning to think that the reason things have died down is not so much because of the games age but instead because you've all been going at the game for so long everything that can be done has been done.

Everytime a user posts up a 'new mod idea' or 'can this be done' the response is a link to BC files or a file taken from someones personal install. Hell, way back in 2011 when I asked about Secondary shield generators I thought my idea was fresh but even that had been done and was part of KM. Okay, the way the idea had been implemented differed from my idea but still... it was something I thought nobody would have bothered with but there it was: "How about doing X?", "Already done, here's X".

Such is the range of things covered I genuinely believe that as a community the limit of what can be done in BC without invading the compiled "forbidden" areas has been reached. Pretty much the only things that havn't been done in the game are because they can't be done or because the resources required to do it outstrip that of the fragmented community. Yup, pretty much the only thing I havn't seen is a new campaign and even then i've been told attempts have been made  :)

:salute3: Bridge Commander :salute3:
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: JimmyB76 on July 21, 2012, 04:46:45 PM
youve already proven yourself to be very well skilled with scripting - i do hope youll hang around for a while and whip up some really cool scripts for the game for us all :)
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: Bones on July 21, 2012, 06:09:08 PM
youve already proven yourself to be very well skilled with scripting - i do hope youll hang around for a while and whip up some really cool scripts for the game for us all :)


Amen to that Jimmy
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: JimmyB76 on July 21, 2012, 06:26:11 PM
not only that, but those of us who have been on this scene for so long, we've built kinda like a "family"...  we all have, even newcomers...  this is our silly crazy family we have lol :)
and we are always here for each other and prolly the most tightest community of any (trek) forum...
weve all grown old together and we all have alot of awesome memories back to BCU when BC modding days was in its prime...  how i wish the current people here could have been there in those days (well some of them were actually lol) - it was barely possible just to keep up with posts from BCU in those days, the modding section and the general section (including the Spam Forum lol)
i cant let it go, i wont...  this will go on as long as possible...
at least until Excalbur is out, and then well all migrate there lol  us all, and many other people from other trek gaming communites - we'll all congeal and it will be a whole new community and a whole new thing!
and lemme tell ya - i know fully THAT scene will be more popular and explosive and THAT modding scene will be ten thousand times more active and awesome than BC ever was in its prime...  
i cant wait!!!    :dance :yay: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: Bones on July 21, 2012, 06:47:13 PM
not only that, but those of us who have been on this scene for so long, we've built kinda like a "family"...  we all have, even newcomers...  this is our silly crazy family we have lol :)

Best NET family I had so far :)  and cuz we're all crazy loonatic trekkies it's so much fun :D
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: JimmyB76 on July 21, 2012, 06:53:23 PM
cuz we're all crazy loonatic trekkies
thats putting it lightly...  fucking fruit loops, you bitches are :P
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: Bat66wat6 on July 21, 2012, 09:40:48 PM
youve already proven yourself to be very well skilled with scripting - i do hope youll hang around for a while and whip up some really cool scripts for the game for us all :)

Amen to that Jimmy
Jimmy, it's like it's your job to make everyone feel valued  :lostit: What have I done for the community except hastle Sovereign and Defiant with my newbie scripting questions about the Bridge Commander API? I've made like 5 or 6 threads the whole time i've been here and they've all amounted to little more than hastling Sovereign, Defiant and anyone else who scripts for this game. Seriously, without an air of modesty or naivety, I can say i've been a taker not a giver.

Sure i'll stick around long enough to convince myself, hopefully some time soon, that the Secondary shield generators script i've been building for what seems like eternity is good enough to drop for testing and download. Although, I seriously doubt anyone would notice if it were released because the mod idea has been done and distributed in KM. Meh, at least even if few people find it of use i'll still have it for my Scimitar  :D

Bones: Your avatar always makes me grin. Everyones got a picture of a ship or star trek character then you've got Ba-na-na  :funny

not only that, but those of us who have been on this scene for so long, we've built kinda like a "family"...  we all have, even newcomers...  this is our silly crazy family we have lol :)
and we are always here for each other and prolly the most tightest community of any (trek) forum...
weve all grown old together and we all have alot of awesome memories back to BCU when BC modding days was in its prime...  how i wish the current people here could have been there in those days (well some of them were actually lol) - it was barely possible just to keep up with posts from BCU in those days, the modding section and the general section (including the Spam Forum lol)
i cant let it go, i wont...  this will go on as long as possible...
at least until Excalbur is out, and then well all migrate there lol  us all, and many other people from other trek gaming communites - we'll all congeal and it will be a whole new community and a whole new thing!
and lemme tell ya - i know fully THAT scene will be more popular and explosive and THAT modding scene will be ten thousand times more active and awesome than BC ever was in its prime...  
i cant wait!!!    :dance :yay: :thumbsup:
You all speak of BCU as though it was some great paradise. "Way back in 1866 this gold town was booming with trade". You crazy guys, you're drunk on Star Trek

Best NET family I had so far :)  and cuz we're all crazy loonatic trekkies it's so much fun :D
Your friend Leonidas should know a thing or two about madness. Normal is but what others are and you aren't. Populate the world with crazy people and the normal ones would be the odd ones  :D
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: FarShot on July 21, 2012, 10:45:17 PM
Excalibur's forums aren't as community friendly as BCC.  My personal hope is that we can just rebrand this as EC - Excalibur Central.  That way I can retain my post count. :P
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: Bat66wat6 on July 21, 2012, 11:07:31 PM
Excalibur's forums aren't as community friendly as BCC.  My personal hope is that we can just rebrand this as EC - Excalibur Central.  That way I can retain my post count. :P
Funny. I still have no idea what this "Excalibur" is. At first it just seemed like a ship or ship pack but now i'm thinking it's either some kind of super mod for BC or a totally new game altogether. Am I right?
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: Nebula on July 21, 2012, 11:12:16 PM
http://www.stexcalibur.com/ ;)
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: Bat66wat6 on July 21, 2012, 11:37:34 PM
http://www.stexcalibur.com/ ;)
Fascinating. A bunch of guys got fed up with Bridge Commanders unstable outdated engine and thought "F this, we're all dedicated Trek fans and good at development so lets *make our own game*!" Ha ha. That's the kind of crazy shit only hardcore Trekkies could pull off  :funny

Fans of a game becoming developers of an entirely new game that's going to be released for... free. I don't believe it, it's a trick! Deception and lies! Whoever heard of such a thing? Surely it's not possible. If all projects to merely make a campaign for this game were doomed to failure surely a monster project such as "Excalibur" is even more futile?

 :idk:
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: FarShot on July 22, 2012, 12:33:56 AM
Obviously you haven't seen the in-engine footage yet.

Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: Bat66wat6 on July 22, 2012, 12:46:01 AM
Obviously you haven't seen the in-engine footage yet.


Seen a video or two and it's mighty impressive for a bunch of guys that aren't getting paid in any way shape or form to make this.
Must have some real pros working on that. If they manage to get that out and it's a fully functioning game just as good or better than what organised companies with organised teams of professionals such as Totally Games and Bridge Commander have managed I will be just.... lost.

Now after looking at their site and the number of people involved and what their goals are i'm even more impressed bc-central is still alive and the greats like Sovereign/Defiant etc still have a presence here  :eek
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: eclipse74569 on July 22, 2012, 12:57:18 AM
Believe me my friend...it's gonna happen!!!!  Maybe within a couple of years but it's gonna happen!!!
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: FarShot on July 22, 2012, 01:30:34 AM
We're still here because we don't have the time nor dedication to commit yet.  At least I don't. :P  That, and as long as people are still releasing epicness for BC, I see no reason for it to die off.
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: JimmyB76 on July 22, 2012, 02:15:21 AM
Jimmy, it's like it's your job to make everyone feel valued  :lostit:
yeah you pretty much got it right there...  and i WANT everyone to feel valued here...
i truly love this scene on a deep personal level, i really do and ill admit it; this means a great deal to me i know that sounds stupid...  ive always been a major fan of BC for a decade now literally every day, i am very passionate of the game, the scene, everything in involved..  i always have been...
all i can do is continue to be a cheerleader for it all (for lack of better term) and do my best to keep the scene in a very tight respectable flow...  sure, i have faults (many lol) - i was much more of a bitch years ago...  (some people here will attest to that lol)  i have lightened up over the last few years but i used to be much more of a bitch and knew as staffer i could be...  but then i realized i was just a dick, and thats not fair to anyone...
but this scene and community means more to me on a very deep level, prolly moreso than anyone else...
ive been onstaff as moderator for all the sites for BC; BCU, here, BCS, Filefront, BCFiles, KM - because i really do love everything about this all, since i came onto the scene 10 years ago...
i wish i had any skills like anyone to be able to mod the game, best i can do is some scripting (not nearly to your level even) - all i can give to offer to this scene personally is loyalty, dedication, and a true spirit and uttermost deep true desire to be here and my utmost respect for everyone here...
thats the best i can do...  i only hope thats enough...  it means more to me than anything to keep us all together and tight and respectful and care about this all...  as much as i do...  
in the last decade, ive met a handful of AWESOME people thru this scene, people that arent here anymore (all on Excalibur now), people that i have formulated real friendships with, people i talk to daily or weekly or whenever i can - that i would have never had the privilege to know if not for BC; and im the one truly and sincerely who feels lucky and honestly privileged to be a part of this all...
thats the truth..  


but dude - seriously, Bat66wat6 - your scripting skills are amazing and you speak the language much better than most (myself included) -i do seriously hope you have the desire to stick around and create as many awesome things for BC and for us all :)
ok enough sappy...  i need a beer lol  :drink2: :drink3: :drink:

Excalibur's forums aren't as community friendly as BCC.
are you fucking kidding me???  ummm yeah sorry, but i disagree...
youre not much a part there anyway, so you cant even begin to profess how "friendly" or not they are...
in fact, Excal forums are actually as much friendly (if not more) and awesome as BCC is, frankly...  
and the best thing is how much oldschool people are there all together again, and how much other people from other communites are all there too and how awesome it is - and how it is just beginning!!  :D
thats the truth...

Although, I seriously doubt anyone would notice if it were released
aaah man, you are so wrong there :)
you have no idea how people truly value anyone's contribution to this game, to keep the spirit alive :)

You all speak of BCU as though it was some great paradise
oh it was...  when BC's elite-most modders were all around and active - you have no idea how much FUN bcu was!  i know im not the only one who remembers when Nano put out NanoFXv2 beta or when Viper and LC put out bridge after bridge, , and MLeo script after script, when BCS did the BCS:TB mod and when KM was first released bny Defiant and crew - those were awesome days!  circa 2003 - 2005ish
or when Mark and 3rd Era put out even more bridges and scripts and when ATP:Dimensions (that never got finished, tho some of us still have a copy of it) and all that - ship after ship, mod after mod, by BC's elite-most modders all there together in BC's prime!  they were really awesome days!

Fascinating. A bunch of guys got fed up with Bridge Commanders unstable outdated engine and thought "F this, we're all dedicated Trek fans and good at development so lets *make our own game*!" Ha ha. That's the kind of crazy shit only hardcore Trekkies could pull off
thats exactly it!  it was supposed to be a megamod rebuild of BC, but they decided BC was too limited...  so they made their own engine...  oldschool legends like Nano, LJ, Mark, LC and about 3 dozen others - oldschool BC's best and even new people - with such great skill and talent are all collaborating!  
im so very lucky to have behind-the-scenes access to what they are doing, and all i can say is this shit will knock your fuckin socks off when done!!!  you guys have NO idea!  and there is alot done already that isnt public yet - just wait!  you guys will see!  :D
 :dance :yay:
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: Bones on July 22, 2012, 04:25:45 AM
 :funny that avatar of mine is starting to be my trademark  :funny

Excalibur's development has gone too far to be cancelled, let's just say it passed the point of no-return, I can only imagine a game created by modders for sheer modding purpose :D it will be the best and most moddable Trek game ever !

Jimmy started to swear, is it SPAM time  ? :funny
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: 1DeadlySAMURAI on July 22, 2012, 06:21:58 AM
Spamula (http://kattforum.se/images/smilies/cat-wub.gif)
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: FarShot on July 22, 2012, 06:45:22 AM
Jimmy started to swear, is it SPAM time  ? :funny

Don't worry, if he gets too far out of hand I can start deleting all of his posts indiscriminately. :P
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: Bones on July 22, 2012, 06:50:44 AM
Wait you mean you CAN delete Jimmy's posts ??? how cool, can I get that feature too  ?:funny I doubt Jimmy would like it but I would have so much fun deleting posts :D
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: JimmyB76 on July 22, 2012, 08:23:18 AM
ok first and foremost, i am a bit relaxed when it comes to swearing - so long as it is few and far in between...
we used to have a "no swearing" rule, but ive lighted up on it so long as it is kept in strict maturity...
if someone drops the "f-bomb", i wont jump all overr them - unless if it is done ridiculously unnecessary...
second, farshot and every staffer can delete anyones post including mine anywhere anytime...
third, as admin i can track all moderation actions...  it is in the admin panel...  so i know who does what anytime...
fourth, if any of my posts are deleted, im gonna just have to cut a bitch lol :P
fifth, that is all...  dont question me...  :P
sixth, no spam :P
seventh, my cat's name is Sam...
eighth, im still waiting on a damn beer - this is why i hired two new bitches, my beer should never be empty ffs!  *grumble grumble*
ninth, see previous sentence...
tenth, i could go on all day like this :P
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: Bones on July 22, 2012, 08:59:19 AM
(http://emoticonhq.com/images/ICQ/beer.jpg) there you go :P see, you hired new bitches and it's me who brought you a beer  :funny
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: JimmyB76 on July 22, 2012, 09:14:42 AM
and you just got alot of cookies - so cheers :)
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: Bones on July 22, 2012, 09:23:09 AM
 :funny cheers Jimmy (http://wcdn4.dataknet.com/static/resources/icons/set29/34491010.png)
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: JimmyB76 on July 22, 2012, 09:25:50 AM
 :thumbsup:
proper!
 :drink2: :drink3: :drink:
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: Bat66wat6 on July 22, 2012, 10:17:58 AM
We're still here because we don't have the time nor dedication to commit yet.  At least I don't. :P  That, and as long as people are still releasing epicness for BC, I see no reason for it to die off.
Yeah, i'd imagine making an entire game from the engine up would take alot more time than any of us have spare. Really makes me wonder who these Excalibur developers are in real life to have such spare time. Yet again though, if it were being developed as nothing but a hobby on the weekends or something then the project would end up dragging forever.

yeah you pretty much got it right there...  and i WANT everyone to feel valued here...
i truly love this scene on a deep personal level, i really do and ill admit it; this means a great deal to me i know that sounds stupid...  ive always been a major fan of BC for a decade now literally every day, i am very passionate of the game, the scene, everything in involved..  i always have been...
all i can do is continue to be a cheerleader for it all (for lack of better term) and do my best to keep the scene in a very tight respectable flow...  sure, i have faults (many lol) - i was much more of a bitch years ago...  (some people here will attest to that lol)  i have lightened up over the last few years but i used to be much more of a bitch and knew as staffer i could be...  but then i realized i was just a dick, and thats not fair to anyone...
but this scene and community means more to me on a very deep level, prolly moreso than anyone else...
ive been onstaff as moderator for all the sites for BC; BCU, here, BCS, Filefront, BCFiles, KM - because i really do love everything about this all, since i came onto the scene 10 years ago...
i wish i had any skills like anyone to be able to mod the game, best i can do is some scripting (not nearly to your level even) - all i can give to offer to this scene personally is loyalty, dedication, and a true spirit and uttermost deep true desire to be here and my utmost respect for everyone here...
thats the best i can do...  i only hope thats enough...  it means more to me than anything to keep us all together and tight and respectful and care about this all...  as much as i do... 
in the last decade, ive met a handful of AWESOME people thru this scene, people that arent here anymore (all on Excalibur now), people that i have formulated real friendships with, people i talk to daily or weekly or whenever i can - that i would have never had the privilege to know if not for BC; and im the one truly and sincerely who feels lucky and honestly privileged to be a part of this all...
thats the truth.. 
Given the time and dedication you've put into this site and this game for all these years have you ever thought to getting your hands dirty and trying to make something? I don't mean that question in a bad way but i'm just curious as to if you've ever got bored of being the "cheerleader" and tried to get in on the action, so to speak.

but dude - seriously, Bat66wat6 - your scripting skills are amazing and you speak the language much better than most (myself included) -i do seriously hope you have the desire to stick around and create as many awesome things for BC and for us all :)
ok enough sappy...  i need a beer lol  :drink2: :drink3: :drink:
Errr yeah, enough sappy indeed. I've always found how much better than you someone else looks when doing something is only determined by how good you are at doing it. Take for example USS Sovereign and Defiant. When I first joined the forum they were like "the almighty" as far as BC scripting was concerned. Now though it's easy for me to see they're just so good when it comes to scripting the game because they've got years of experience with programming and the Bridge Commander API.

Also, to be blunt, you wouldn't measure how good a doctor is that has never examined a patient, or a builder that's never built something. If I release my little script and even more than a handful of people find it useful and enjoy using it in their BC installs then i'll give my status another look.

:funny that avatar of mine is starting to be my trademark  :funny

Excalibur's development has gone too far to be cancelled, let's just say it passed the point of no-return, I can only imagine a game created by modders for sheer modding purpose :D it will be the best and most moddable Trek game ever !

Jimmy started to swear, is it SPAM time  ? :funny
Knowing todays business practices regarding game development and how good Excalibur is looking to be I wouldn't be totally surprised if a real games company came along and bought it all up  :funny

Imagine, something like greedy EA or Activision doing some research and concluding a space warfare game such as Excalibur could be profitable.

"You can have $10,000 between you all in exchange for ownership of the title. Don't worry about a pen for the signature, a drop of blood on the bottom line of this scroll will do  :evil: "
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: JimmyB76 on July 22, 2012, 10:39:55 AM
have you ever thought to getting your hands dirty and trying to make something? I don't mean that question in a bad way but i'm just curious as to if you've ever got bored of being the "cheerleader" and tried to get in on the action, so to speak.
i have...  i did alot of work on DS9E scripting and hardpoints (Sovvy will confirm that) and alot of work into the new SP mod Lurok is gonna be putting out there soon...  and a few other slight things here and there... i am only good with scripting...  
ive never released any mod on my own, a few scripts here and there, thats about it as far as me putting somethign out there...  nothing on BCFiles, but there are some slight things ive done that can be found here and moreso at BCU (which sadly that forum no longer exists)...
but i have done alot of work with others in megamods...  im not entirely useless lol j/k :P

as far as Excalibur - these guys do it in their free time...  if they were paid for like a full time 9 to 5 job, it would be done already lol
they do it for the same reason i am on this scene in that they have a love for Trek and modding and theyre doing it for everyone to enjoy...  i cant think honestly a more awesome and noble thing for someone to do, it is like when someone makes a ship or a mod - they do it for the love of it and thank god they are!  we all gain from it!  
these cats are the most awesome guys and the most brilliant and skilled and talented people ill ever come to know in life - and theyre doing it for the love and devotion to Trek (and BC indeed) and for everyone else to enjoy - how awesome is that??
cheers to them!  
and you guys in the general public have no idea how awesome it is now and all i can say is just stand by ;)
it is amazing to say the least, all that which theyve put into it!!!
im not even exaggerating in the slightest when i say it will knock your socks off!!   :D
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: Bat66wat6 on July 22, 2012, 11:35:13 AM
i have...  i did alot of work on DS9E scripting and hardpoints (Sovvy will confirm that) and alot of work into the new SP mod Lurok is gonna be putting out there soon...  and a few other slight things here and there... i am only good with scripting...  
ive never released any mod on my own, a few scripts here and there, thats about it as far as me putting somethign out there...  nothing on BCFiles, but there are some slight things ive done that can be found here and moreso at BCU (which sadly that forum no longer exists)...
but i have done alot of work with others in megamods...  im not entirely useless lol j/k :P
Good. If you've made scripts and they've become part of something people use and it adds to the game then you're hardly just a cheerleader. Don't demote yourself just becuase you never single handedly wrote KM or Galaxy Charts etc.

as far as Excalibur - these guys do it in their free time...  if they were paid for like a full time 9 to 5 job, it would be done already lol
they do it for the same reason i am on this scene in that they have a love for Trek and modding and theyre doing it for everyone to enjoy...  i cant think honestly a more awesome and noble thing for someone to do, it is like when someone makes a ship or a mod - they do it for the love of it and thank god they are!  we all gain from it! 
these cats are the most awesome guys and the most brilliant and skilled and talented people ill ever come to know in life - and theyre doing it for the love and devotion to Trek (and BC indeed) and for everyone else to enjoy - how awesome is that??
cheers to them! 
and you guys in the general public have no idea how awesome it is now and all i can say is just stand by ;)
it is amazing to say the least, all that which theyve put into it!!!
im not even exaggerating in the slightest when i say it will knock your socks off!!   :D
I don't doubt the skill of those involved in Excalibur but what i'm pondering is the cohesion and organisation of something as ambitious as making a new game. If they can all stick together and pull in the same direction I have no doubt the final product will be at least as good as what real games companies could do and if not better because they don't have the 9 to 5 release the game by X deadline bearing down on them.

On the other hand countless cases of failed community driven mega-projects cast a cloud of doubt in my mind.

Regardless of what happens it's exciting to see gamers throwing conventional wisdom to the wind and going all out to get the game they want.

I imagine it went down like:
"Okay, all the real game makers have neglected Star Trek games since the release of BC."
Yeah...
"BC is outdated, unstable and the limits of what we can achieve without invading the .exe have been reached."
Uh huh.
"The solution: Drop BC and use all our knowledge and time to make our own game from the ground up. One where we write the rules and limits!"
Whaaaaaaaaaat?  :serious:
"Let's do it! Let's get all the guys together from BCU, BC-Central and all the other sites and F'in do it right now!"
 :drink2: :salute2:
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: NanoByte on July 22, 2012, 04:29:35 PM
Ya that's pretty much how it went.  I had enough of trying to mod for the flawed BC engine and started diving into DirectX, so I tried to start my own engine, and that's how the NanoFX Model Viewer was born, then joining forces with the awesome BC art legends and John Hardy, we now have a great team to produce Star Trek: Excalibur.

I can tell you first hand we are pretty dedicated, there isn't a lot of fighting (so very small chance the group would ever break up due to personality conflicts) and we are all acheive some pretty awesome stuff, it is slow going because we only have so much spare time, but I'm 99% sure the project will get done eventually... even if I have to code it all myself!  But it would never come down to that.

So yes as Jimmy has stated, just stand by and be patient and the best thing for us is support and encouragement from the community we are building this game for!  It really is the fuel for the prjoect that helps motivate us to get it done as quickly as we can

On a side note (I'm impressed I remembered my log in here, it's been so long since I posted here lol)
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: King Class Scout on July 22, 2012, 04:58:30 PM
wait a minnit...mister Nano FX himself?  wow.

too bad the nano viewer didn't work whatsoever on my mother's braND new in 7 dual core lappy :P
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: Darkthunder on July 22, 2012, 06:04:43 PM
On a side note (I'm impressed I remembered my log in here, it's been so long since I posted here lol)

3 years, going by your previous last forum post :P
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: Bat66wat6 on July 23, 2012, 12:09:55 AM
Ya that's pretty much how it went.  I had enough of trying to mod for the flawed BC engine and started diving into DirectX, so I tried to start my own engine, and that's how the NanoFX Model Viewer was born, then joining forces with the awesome BC art legends and John Hardy, we now have a great team to produce Star Trek: Excalibur.

I can tell you first hand we are pretty dedicated, there isn't a lot of fighting (so very small chance the group would ever break up due to personality conflicts) and we are all acheive some pretty awesome stuff, it is slow going because we only have so much spare time, but I'm 99% sure the project will get done eventually... even if I have to code it all myself!  But it would never come down to that.

So yes as Jimmy has stated, just stand by and be patient and the best thing for us is support and encouragement from the community we are building this game for!  It really is the fuel for the prjoect that helps motivate us to get it done as quickly as we can

On a side note (I'm impressed I remembered my log in here, it's been so long since I posted here lol)
Awesome! For a project like Excalibur patience is something i've got an abundance of. Take your time. I can't guaruntee that you'll all be sane after the mammoth project is finally done. You'll all probably have a nervous twitch, be speaking and seeing code everywhere unable to get the visions of the game out of your head  :funny

Good work and good luck. We'll see how insane you end up on the other side  :)

wait a minnit...mister Nano FX himself?  wow.
:salute3:  :bow:

too bad the nano viewer didn't work whatsoever on my mother's braND new in 7 dual core lappy :P
I've never ran NanoFX on any of my BC custom 1.1's  :D

3 years, going by your previous last forum post :P
That is very impressive. I thought I was impressed with my lack of password recall problems after 10 months away from the forums, now though...  :(
Title: Re: Truly impressed you guys are still here
Post by: Nebula on July 23, 2012, 10:21:22 AM
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I've never ran NanoFX on any of my BC custom 1.1's 

He's talking about the Excal test viewer... not the NanoFX mod for BC.