TREK XI - Images, Footage, Trailers, Enterprise, Discussion, etc. Thread (WARNING: SPOILERS)

[Dalek]

Yes, I was wondering about that. I wonder if there's a little screw holding down a bit of plastic casing to keep them in...

[Tuskin38]

http://www.jamesclyne.com/images_gallery/armada_des_01_jc%20copy_651.jpg

haha, check this Concept of the Vulcan Debris field. I see a NX-Class, a Federation Class dreadnought, a Miranda 

[Shadowknight1]

Bits of Constitution too.

[Dante Leonhart]

that bridge (USS Iowa) is much nicer and more appealing than the Enterprise's iBridge was IMO...  thats what they should have used instead...  i also found the Ent iBridge too cluttered...  those stupid windows or panels or whatever those standing consoles were really made the bridge feel closed in to me...

This  :arms:

[Shadowknight1]

Well, TrekMovie has two different sources on the DVD release of the movie.  One source says that it'll be November or December, while another says October.  Hmph.  I hate the wait between the theatrical release and DVD...

[NeoSilverThorn]

Well, TrekMovie has two different sources on the DVD release of the movie.  One source says that it'll be November or December, while another says October.  Hmph.  I hate the wait between the theatrical release and DVD...

You, me, and everyone else on the face of this rock we call a home.

Schematics for the JJPrise.  Because I'm in a sharing mood.  Only gripe is that there's no cutaway to show the decks...

[Shadowknight1]

Huh.  Only the model shots from the website and the un-detailed side view are official, and even those are of a model with droopy nacelles.  The only "schematics" are from Tobias Richter.

The wait for the DVD would be easier if our local theater hadn't already dropped Trek.

[086gf]

There are two cool new articles over at trekmovie.com about what the Riverside Shipyard could have looked like and one about the sizes of three of the ships.

Pictures of a single dock with a crane(s) over the ship and a turntable railroad style facility.
http://trekmovie.com/2009/06/10/john-eaves-shows-off-early-sketches-of-riverside-shipyards-from-star-trek/

According to ILM these are the lenghts of the shuttle(the kind of Argo looking one), the Enterprise and the Narada and its drilling. There is also other info talked about too.

Shuttle = 30 feet long
Enterprise = 2,357 feet long(thats 718.414 meters hmm...)
Narada = 5 miles long(drilling rig is too)

http://trekmovie.com/2009/06/09/new-details-on-star-trek-vfx-ship-sizes-revealed/

[Billz]

I still refuse to believe that the Trek XI Enterprise is bigger then the Enterprise-D. Thats just an insane length. Its as big as the TMP Enterprise and i'll be damned if anyone can actually PROVE otherwise.

[Shadowknight1]

Honestly Billz, can you prove that the original Enterprise was the size they said it was?  I mean seriously, considering all the crew quarters and support systems for a crew of 400, not to mention weapons storage, reactors, antimatter storage chambers, dilithium crystal storage chambers, food and water storage and processing, as well as miscellaneous cargo and the shuttlebay, could ALL of that fit into the original dimensions of the Enterprise?  Not to mention the fact that the Enterprise is smaller than the Enterprise CVN-65, which is stupid IMHO.  The pinnacle of human achievement in the 23rd century is smaller and carries less crew than an aircraft carrier that today is over 50 years old.

[Nebula]

I think most of the crew on the TOS ent were in bunks....

also the newer the ship the less crew is needed... things are getting way more automated.

[Shadowknight1]

I think most of the crew on the TOS ent were in bunks....

also the newer the ship the less crew is needed... things are getting way more automated.

Automation, right.  Going by that logic, in 200 years there probably wouldn't even need to be a crew.

[NeoSilverThorn]

I think most of the crew on the TOS ent were in bunks....

also the newer the ship the less crew is needed... things are getting way more automated.

Automation, right.  Going by that logic, in 200 years there probably wouldn't even need to be a crew.

Invoking AI is a crapshoot here.  Truth be told, you will never, ever replace a manned craft.  No matter how intelligent the programming, it will never be able to deal with stressfull matters in the same quick fashion as a human can.  Not to mention the risk of turning a computer controlled weapon into a kill-all-life Berzerker.

The Fred Saberhagen view aside, the JJPrise is simply built on what might be a more "realistic" scale than the original.

[WileyCoyote]

No matter how intelligent the programming, it will never be able to deal with stressfull matters in the same quick fashion as a human can.  Not to mention the risk of turning a computer controlled weapon into a kill-all-life Berzerker.

That sounds a bit like the M5 computer. For the JJprise scaling, this is just another one of those scaling issues for countless ships seen through the numerous series and movies. Please do not take it seriously.....it's a movie. Then again, we are Trekkies/Trekkers and we love to nitpick every little detail no matter what size.

[Raven Night]

I have to say this is exactly how you rewrite trek.

First, you find a way to keep canon intact. Then you give nods to old and new, with a tendency toward old. Add in interesting actors, a really high speed interesting story, and you have a winner.

This is a good example of why Enterprise failed. I am very happy with the fact that this succeeded.

[Nebula]

here is an interesting breakdown of the Enterprise's shipyard.

Link

[FarShot]

They could be the cameras, one of which Chekov used to make the shipwide address.

Good point.

Going back to this, in the Cage version of the TOS Ent's bridge, we see two things closely resembling the things sticking out of the forward console.

[Kirk]

Wasn't there one on the Captain's chair as well?

[Nebula]

those are just lamps for the console....

the new "Star Trek" bridge has those on almost every console on the bridge.

[Kirk]

Those aren't lamps.