Author Topic: TREK XI - Images, Footage, Trailers, Enterprise, Discussion, etc. Thread (WARNING: SPOILERS)  (Read 207120 times)

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I know that there is about a 99% chance of this not happening, but it would be cool to see a Kirk vs. the Borg situation.  Maybe the Borg debris of the Narada is transmitting a recovery beacon?  Would be a good way to canonize the Countdown comics to some degree.

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actually, it might be best to try and hold off any major speculation related to the next film's storyline...  it could wind up going for the next 40 pages in a few days in this thread, and in all sorts of random directions lol  (i know, im guilty of accidentally going off into that tangent as well lol :P)
when more detailed, or any pieces, of official information are released, then we can have a whole new thread for it (like how this one was born)...   :)
anything left on this movie to go on about?  anything official yet about a release date for the DVD and/or scenes that were cut?  (did we go over that ground already? lol)

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more star trek XI concept art was released....

I like the Iowa!!

Also the concept for the Ent Bridge looks much better than what we got :P

http://trekmovie.com/2009/06/23/more-star-trek-concept-art-from-ryan-church/

oh and that engineering concept better be in the next movie!!!
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more star trek XI concept art was released....

I like the Iowa!!

Also the concept for the Ent Bridge looks much better than what we got :P

http://trekmovie.com/2009/06/23/more-star-trek-concept-art-from-ryan-church/

oh and that engineering concept better be in the next movie!!!

Now that is a perfect TOS version og the Kelvin.

Not alot changed from the bridge concept to the final set. I do that hate that the engineering set suffered because Paramount wanted to be 'cheap'.
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anything left on this movie to go on about?  anything official yet about a release date for the DVD and/or scenes that were cut?  (did we go over that ground already? lol)

The DVD doesn't have an official release date as yet, just rumors, one of which saying around late October, the other saying as late as Christmas.  As for deleted scenes, there are going to be some with baby Spock and young Kirk(before stealing the 'Vette) as well as Nero's imprisonment at Rura Penthe(I hope!)

As for the concept art, I don't mind the bridge we ended up with, but Ryan's design looks so much cleaner...Same with the engineering set.  Stupid Paramount having budget crunches. *grumbles*  I don't mind the brewery, but seeing what we could have had...GAH!  Maybe in the next one??

EDIT: Addendum! http://trekmovie.com/2009/06/24/details-on-star-trek-movie-blu-ray-features-and-deleted-scenes-2/ Special features and deleted scenes listed!

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more star trek XI concept art was released....

I like the Iowa!!

Also the concept for the Ent Bridge looks much better than what we got :P

http://trekmovie.com/2009/06/23/more-star-trek-concept-art-from-ryan-church/

oh and that engineering concept better be in the next movie!!!

I want that Kelvin/Iowa texture in BC... lol. It almost looks like it could be a 'Kelvin Prime'

You guys should check out all of Church's work on his site, he has some cool concepts from other movies. His starwars stuff is cool.

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ok so there were a few more deleted scenes then I thought

# Deleted scenes:

    * Spock?s birth
    * Klingons capture Narada
    * Young Kirk, Johnny and Uncle Frank
    * Amanda and Sarek argue after Spock?s fight
    * Interrogation and escape from prison
    * Sarek and Amanda
    * Bedroom and Kobayashi Maru (original version)
    * Kirk apologizes to the green girl
    * Sarek sees Spock Prime
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its going to be so good to see klingons

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Here's all of the other Blu-Ray info.

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Star Trek (2009 movie) Blu-ray Details

Technical


Picture: 2.35:1 (1080p)
Sound: German Dolby Digital 5.1, English Dolby True HD 5.1, English Audio Description, Spanish Dolby Digital 5.1, Italian Dolby Digital 5.1
Subtitles: German, English and others

Extras:

?Audio commentary (JJ Abrams, Bryan Burke, Alex Kurtzman, Damon Lindelof, Roberto Orci)

?Featurettes:

?Where no man has gone before:
?The Shatner conundrum
?The redshirt guy,
?The green girl
?Trekker alert!
?Casting
?A new vision ("Savage Pressure")

?Starships:

?Warp explained
?Painting work
?Accelerated bridge construction
?The captain?s chair
?Operating the buttons
?Shuttle shuffle
?Accelerated Narada construction

?Aliens:

?The alien paradox
?The girl with the big eyes
?Big pro Quinto
?Klingons
?Drakoulias anatomy 101

?Planets:

?Additional businesses
?Confidentiality
?Equipment and costumes: Klingon costumes
?Sound
?Music
?Gene Roddenberry?s vision
?Starfleet vessel simulator (probably BD only)
?Star Trek gag reel

?Trailers:

?Teaser trailer
?Theatrical trailer "The wait is over"
?Theatrical trailer "Prepare for the beginning"
?Theatrical trailer "Buckle up"
?Star Trek: D-A-C demo (trailer) for XBOX 360
?BD Live options
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Are they gonna add some scenes with Kirk actually kicking butt instead of being a sneaky weasel who is continually getting his butt kicked and then dangling from yet another precipice by his fingertips?

Lol, I'm just saying...
"Books are not canon, only what you see on screen. Yes, even the horrible Voyager episode where they go past warp 10 and have crazy lizard babies."

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I've seen all of TOS and the only fistfights that Kirk won were against single humans.  In the bar scene, Kirk was outnumbered and drunk.  Against the Romulans and Spock, Kirk was facing foes with naturally superior strength.  Kirk getting the crap beat out of him made sense.

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I'll just say one last thing about this movie - well, reboots in general - then I'll shut up :) This not-a-reboot-but-so-obviously-is thing doesn't work for me. When I look at this current period of rehashing old ideas, the ones that were most successful - for me - were the new two Batman movies, and Battlestar Galactica, the new series. Whether or not you liked the new BSG, one thing remains a fact - and that is that they didn't try to force continuity with a decades old series, which always seems clumsy in the end for me. I prefer an honest reboot that says "yes we're using an old idea but we're doing it from today's perspective. We will not try to make it work with a decades old product that looks completely cheesy nowadays, the old product will have it's own canon and we will have ours". Seriously, why go through all the clumsy time travel attempts of continuity when you can just say "this is the new Trek, it stands on it's own". That way, I wouldn't mind things like Delta Vega, which was originally very far from Vulcan (TOS season 1 episode 3 - they're trying to leave the Galaxy as the Valiant did, run into some sort of Barrier thing, one of the officers starts gaining god like powers so they attempt to maroon him on Delta Vega, which is close by and home to an unmanned fully automated Federation installation), the planet wasn't completely covered in ice, etc, yet in the new trek Spock can observe the destruction of Vulcan from it with his naked eye like it was a moon of it. If it was an honest reboot it wouldn't have to worry about these continuity problems, and frankly it's better not to have to do that when you're redoing something that's about 50 years old..
Long story short, best reboots for me are the clean reboots that only use the basic idea and don't try to be compatible with their old counterparts. Look at Star Wars.. watch them in sequence, and tell me that the complete change in art direction, style, pace, acting style, etc. doesn't seem clumsy and awkward when you're switching between episodes 3 and 4..

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yet in the new trek Spock can observe the destruction of Vulcan from it with his naked eye like it was a moon of it.

When Nero left him there he actually gave him some kind of device so that he could watch it happen like he wanted him to. What WE(the audience) saw was what WE saw NOT Spock. The effect was for the audience ONLY. An old Hollywood trick...nothing new here.
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We saw the planet blow up against Delta Vega's sky. You can rationalize it all you want, it still won't change the fact we saw no such device. At any rate this isn't that important, it's merely to illustrate the fact that it's far cleaner and better to just do a reboot from the start then try to both reinvent and continue a 50 year old franchise at the same time, creating all sorts of continuity problems in the process. Wouldn't a story that's not hindered by 50 year's worth of "canon" work better? Just say "this is our new Kirk, and this is our new Trek". JJ Abrams went out of his way to make a new trek that's totally different from the old one and meant for a much wider audience, yet he still tries to make it work in a continuity with the old trek. Why? If you're making something new of it, then do it. Let Starbuck be a girl this time and forget about the 70's haircuts, I say :)

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Have you read the interviews explaining that scene??
That rationalize was their response....

he wanted a wider audience but he also had to appeal to the majority of old fans as well....
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Well I'm an old fan and I'd have preferred a new trek that wasn't hopelessly trying to connect something that's best kept apart and just went it's own merry way. It's a bit like trying to have a tool that can do everything - an individual tool that's made for just one task will always be superior in that task. A successful franchise reboot shouldn't try to keep canon in regards to things that are over 50 years old, but do it's own thing. But that's just me.

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Newman, as an "old trek fan" myself I could say that just between the two of us, were very different fans. Alot of fans would've whined to high heavens if they would've made a "pure reboot", just as there are fans such as yourself that whine because they wanted to keep the connection to the "old trek".

Ultimately, people are never satisfied. I for one am very happy that JJ Abrams decided to make the new movie a movie for "everyone" and not just for the hardcore Star Trek fans that have been fans for the past 40+ years. All the whining over the years bickering about every minute detail that is inconsistent from one episode to the next, is exactly what eventually drove Star Trek into the ground. Ofcourse, a high degree of mis-management was to blaim as well, and writer fatigue.

Now we got a new Star Trek franchise, continuing on fairly estabilished grounds, but not afraid to give a new interpretion of events. New writers, new people in charge. Exactly what Star Trek has needed since TNG.

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i agree with newman's points, personally...

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I think the only thing we can do here now is agree to disagree lol
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it is what it is; maybe the next movie will make things have a bit more sense to the hardcore skeptics (like me lol)...