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Re: Constitution Refit pack V.2
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2008, 01:26:54 PM »
Also, I don't know if it applies to the original refit, but at least on the A, a small area on the bottom of the secondary hull is a bit darker color, almost the same color as the area surrounding the deflector.


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Re: Constitution Refit pack V.2
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2008, 10:38:36 AM »
hey Doc, so far it all looks great, im looking forward to them! i want to let you that the Enterprise-A's Impulse dome is not blue like the Enterprise Refits was. the A's was actually gold with light blue highlights. I'm providing you a link that was taken of the old girl when she was on display at the Smithsonian.

http://www.culttvman.com/startreksmithsonianjb.html

 

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Re: Constitution Refit pack V.2
« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2008, 01:26:01 PM »
I'm making refit but from ST1 to ST3 period not A so those may be usefull for A I can eventually make it but then this pack would be huge.

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Re: Constitution Refit pack V.2
« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2008, 01:40:52 PM »
I'm making refit but from ST1 to ST3 period not A so those may be usefull for A I can eventually make it but then this pack would be huge.

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Re: Constitution Refit pack V.2
« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2008, 02:15:35 PM »
I'm making refit but from ST1 to ST3 period not A so those may be usefull for A I can eventually make it but then this pack would be huge.
what about using SDT?  it would decrease the size of the pack...

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Re: Constitution Refit pack V.2
« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2008, 02:24:02 PM »
I'm making refit but from ST1 to ST3 period not A so those may be usefull for A I can eventually make it but then this pack would be huge.
what about using SDT?  it would decrease the size of the pack...

True, especially since the majority of the Connies are, presumably, based off the 1701 refit's textures rather than the A's.  That way, you'd only really need 2 base textures.

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Re: Constitution Refit pack V.2
« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2008, 03:44:43 PM »
Well infact SDT won't change anything here as I already made ID map with all regs placed on one 2048x2048 map which decreases size of the pack dramitically, enterprise A had all details blue, now every map on this model has some of these details : FCA 1 - top saucer (no differences), FCA 2 - bot saucer (different neck connection color), FCA 3 - saucer rim, impulse drive, top & bottom saucer domes (different impulse vents, dome, green->blue details colors), FCA 4 - nacelles (different warp vents colors + some green->blue details) FCA - 5 secondary hull (lots of panelling differences + lots of details) FCA 6 - deflector area (different deflector color, deflector rim color, UFP logo), FCA 7 - neck (green->blue details) FCA 8 - nacelle pylons (green->blue details) .... so it mean it would be whole new textures set, I'll only use SDT on ID maps to swap between registries ;)

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Re: Constitution Refit pack V.2
« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2008, 05:32:02 PM »
Bones, here's a link that might help you with some things if you haven't already looked there.

http://www.cloudster.com/Sets&Vehicles/STMPEnterprise/STMPEnterpriseTop.htm


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Re: Constitution Refit pack V.2
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2008, 09:49:11 AM »
UFP logo on the A?  Huh?  And I don't think there are that many panelling differences since it was pretty much the same model...

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Re: Constitution Refit pack V.2
« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2008, 11:02:03 AM »
UFP logo on the A?  Huh?  And I don't think there are that many panelling differences since it was pretty much the same model...
those differences were especially in color as A had more white&shiny hull, outlines were very faint and that logo I meant starfleet logo not UFP :D which arrow is yellow on refit and on refit A it is grey if I'm not wrong...

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Re: Constitution Refit pack V.2
« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2008, 11:20:17 AM »
You are wrong I'm afraid.  They're pretty much the same.

Refit from TMP: http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tmp/themotionpicture0401.jpg

Enterprise A "miniature": http://www.cloudster.com/Sets&Vehicles/STMPEnterprise/ColorPhotos/cSTMPent15.jpg


Note: "miniature" is in quotes because I honestly can't call anything that big a miniature, no matter how big the real Enterprise would be in comparison. :P

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Re: Constitution Refit pack V.2
« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2008, 11:44:32 AM »
Bigatures! A phrase coined during the making of Lord of the Rings. And since the miniture for Isengard was the size of a football field, it was quite well deserved!
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Re: Constitution Refit pack V.2
« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2008, 12:28:34 PM »
oookkk but there are still some details that make big difference between refit and refit A (like colors and small details like starfleet logo or light blue square at the bottom of secondary hull, tho I'm now tempted enough to make the big 'A' aswell :D

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Re: Constitution Refit pack V.2
« Reply #33 on: April 17, 2008, 12:34:05 PM »
Thanks to me, you certainly have a start. ;)

Speaking of which... *nudge nudge* lol

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Re: Constitution Refit pack V.2
« Reply #34 on: April 17, 2008, 12:44:47 PM »
a new version of my favorite class?...........and the possibility of the 1701-A being in it?

i'm definitely lookinmg forward to this! :D

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Re: Constitution Refit pack V.2
« Reply #35 on: April 17, 2008, 06:22:53 PM »
Wow Doc, I admire the level of detail you put into the Constitution Class such as the dirty textures, and
FTECH impulse. You've got a good eye for picking out details from the studio model. While I enjoy the
yellow/beige textures, I also wish we could see textures similar to the ones seen in ST:VI (most notably
when Enterprise A leaves spacedock)

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Re: Constitution Refit pack V.2
« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2008, 02:48:03 PM »
Bigatures! A phrase coined during the making of Lord of the Rings. And since the miniture for Isengard was the size of a football field, it was quite well deserved!

aye and the helms deep mini was only 1/4 scale, they actually blew up the wall with explosives. anyways good work, look forward to seeing a newer connie out there

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Re: Constitution Refit pack V.2
« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2008, 03:10:53 PM »
aye and the helms deep mini was only 1/4 scale, they actually blew up the wall with explosives. anyways good work, look forward to seeing a newer connie out there

Actually, the one they blew up was a lot smaller. It was only intended as a wide shot model, but they ended up putting camera's VERY close to it :lol:! Anyway, enough off-topicness :P!
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Re: Constitution Refit pack V.2
« Reply #38 on: April 19, 2008, 08:27:47 AM »
Ok the pack has just reached 20 different registries :D and I think that's enough, 16-17 regs are canon names taken from ex astris scientia the rest are uncanon.
USS Constitution NCC-1700
USS Constellation NCC-1017
USS Defiant NCC-1764
USS Eagle NCC-956
USS Endeavour NCC-1895
USS Enterprise NCC-1701
USS Essex NCC-1697
USS Excalibur NCC-1664
USS Exeter NCC-1672
USS Farragut NCC-1647
USS Hood NCC-1703
USS Intrepid NCC-1631
USS Kongo NCC-1710
USS Lexington NCC-1709
USS Potemkin NCC-1657
USS Republic NCC-1371
USS Yorktown NCC-1717
USS Archangel NCC-1999
USS Jupiter NCC 1708
USS Discovery NCC-1798

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Re: Constitution Refit pack V.2
« Reply #39 on: April 19, 2008, 08:39:58 AM »
ill wait for the A like her color scheme better :lol: