Constitution Refit pack V.2

[Bones]

Ah yes the big 'A' it will be separate mod released as a single ship

[Vortex]

YAY for Endeavour!!

And your making the A seperates? YAY!!

[Shadowknight1]

That's not what he meant, it'll be a separate ship mod than the rest of the pack.

[eclipse74569]

Shadowknight I think that's what Vortex meant, he might have added the s by accident ;)

Kool beans on the names Bones.  I can't wait to get this one on my instal

[admiral homer]

Hmmm i wonder were jupiter ncc 1708 came from lol. Cant wait to download this pack, thanks mate have a well deserved cookie.

[Shadowknight1]

Well, I hope that some of my stuff'll help Bones out.

[Bones]

Well, I hope that some of my stuff'll help Bones out.

sure it does I just finished detailing the neck, now I need to fix mirrored torpedo bay map and prepare it for name ( yes, this connie will have its name on side of torpedo bays, just as it should be ) when I'll add windows I'll post some pics ;)

[Erk]

20 registries!? wow! ive always wanted to play as the yorktown. but i have a question, the Constellation, Defiant and Excalibur were lost. Are these ships going to have an A at the end? Either way i still cant wait for this

[Shadowknight1]

Gah!  Bones, I just noticed something!  The thrusters you have on the deflector aren't right unless you've changed them since your first post.  They need to be the same as the A, look at the deflector texture I sent you. >.>

[Bones]

20 registries!? wow! ive always wanted to play as the yorktown. but i have a question, the Constellation, Defiant and Excalibur were lost. Are these ships going to have an A at the end? Either way i still cant wait for this

I'm not sure if this would be canon to leave them as they are now cuz Enterprise got A after destruction so these should also get A

Gah!  Bones, I just noticed something!  The thrusters you have on the deflector aren't right unless you've changed them since your first post.  They need to be the same as the A, look at the deflector texture I sent you. >.>

Thanks I dindn't notice that before, I better check this out ;)

[Erk]

I'm not sure if this would be canon to leave them as they are now cuz Enterprise got A after destruction so these should also get A

Agreed  They deserve that A afterwards.  heh, but then becomes the question "Did they build new constitution class ships or simply rename them like they did the USS Yorktown to USS Enterprise-A?" 

my answer to that would be.. who cares  8)


Man i wish someone would make a V'ger ship so when your pack is released i can fly the Enterprise in it. 

[Shadowknight1]

Gah!  Bones, I just noticed something!  The thrusters you have on the deflector aren't right unless you've changed them since your first post.  They need to be the same as the A, look at the deflector texture I sent you. >.>

Thanks I dindn't notice that before, I better check this out ;)
[/quote]

Yeah, for example, look at ST2, right when the Enterprise is firing Spock's torpedo towards Genesis, it's a really good view of that area.

And to be honest...I don't think those ships should get an A, they should have totally different registries.  Look at Sisko's Saratoga, and the two DS9 Defiants.  None of them had an A in the registry, despite being second or third in the line.  I think the A, B, C, etc. was something that Starfleet applied to the Enterprise in honor of the original's 20+ years of service, and in honor of her crew.

[admiral homer]

Wasnt it more 40 years old. The yorktown was used in ST4 before we see the enterprise at the end. There is a small clip in the film were we see a bridge shot of Vijay Amritraj playing the yorktown captain, the bridge showed the same computer displays as were seen in TMP. Now if that ship we see as the A at the end of ST4 was the yorktown then they must of upgraded and repaired the ship really quickly or its another ship that reasigned as the A.

Now did that make sence or have a just confused you and me at the same time lol.
Loving the work tho so far mate, keep it up!  :lol:

[Bones]

I think you confused first refit age with overall constitution class age, cuz in ST6 it was nearly 40 if not 50 years old but the Enterprise first seen in ST series and refit ST TMP was nearly 20 years old as adm. Morrow stated in ST3, yet it is confusing to me why they wanted Enterpise to be decomissioned ? because of its age while other constitution refit ships were flying around even in ST6 ? Scotty said that Enterprise required few weeks in drydock to be fully functional... I think they just came with idea to effectively finish Enterprise in this movie cuz it dosn't make sense to me, we have seen in trek much more damaged ships i.e. in DS9 the defiant or even in NEM - Enterpise with 1/4 of its saucer blown off.

Now as I promised, here are some pics of progress on connie, thrusters on deflector rim are fixed, neck is fixed and windows are in place + i've lightened a little blue warp vents just to make them as they were in TMP.

[Erk]

The Enterprise was around 40 years old. She was launched in 2245 and destroyed in 2285. She had seen many 5 year missions: 1 with Captain April, 2 with Pike and 1 with Kirk. At the end of Kirks missions around the 2270s, the Enterprise returned home. During the 70s she received the refit as seen in the TMP. Admiral Kirk commanded the Enterprise after the V'ger incident for a few years then passed the command to Captain Spock. Then in 2285 the USS Reliant was hijacked and Khan engaged the Enterprise. After TWOK the Enterprise returned home. 
(There is a difference in the appearance of the Enterprise between Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan and Star Trek III: The Search for Spock: in Star Trek III, the ship's external appearance appears to have deteriorated around the areas damaged by Khan's attacks, while other areas of the ship that hadn't been damaged by Khan's attack had battle damage, including the starboard secondary hull, both nacelles, and the top of the saucer. This extra damage was explained in non-canon Star Trek literature as having occurred in spars with Klingon warships between the second and third movies. The aggressive move to attack the Enterprise was explained by the secrecy of the Genesis Planet and the overall uneasiness it created. This could also explain the Klingon aggressiveness displayed throughout the third movie.)
Then in 2285 she was destroyed over the Genesis Planet by Admiral Kirk

  fun stuff!


-info mostly provided by Star Trek Wiki
http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/NCC-1701
http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Enterprise_history

[Shadowknight1]

Looking better Bones, but why is that thruster color like that?  Wasn't it darker in the movie, or am I just confused?  And don't forget, the little square ports glow white.

Also, regarding the Enterprise's history, she had been through all kinds of stuff by the time TWOK rolled around.  At that time, she had been re-assigned as a training vessel.  As such, Starfleet had probably written off the ol' E.  When she came home nearly in pieces, some Starfleet bureaucrat probably decided that it would be a good time to yank her out of active duty permanently.

[Aeries]

darn doc, you've worked wonders with the old girl haven't ya?

[Erk]

wait! Doc! theres a color error on the neck! that ribbed area where the neck meets the torp tubes on the back for the 1701 should be black. it was blue/green on the 1701-A. trust me on this, ive built A LOT of models and every guide notes that color difference.  plus its in the movies  8)

[Shadowknight1]

lol, I caught that, but left it alone cause I figured either he'd pick it up, someone else'd point it out, or, just possibly, he hadn't gotten to it yet.

[Erk]

lol, I caught that, but left it alone cause I figured either he'd pick it up, someone else'd point it out, or, just possibly, he hadn't gotten to it yet.

SUUUUURE ya did  8) 


p.s. doc, if you need any light references check out this video :

his model is awesome, a nice clean STILL example instead of a paused screencap with the motion blurs. the only thing i dont like on this guys model is the top light on the NCC section, but nobodies perfect