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Re: Sun Tzu Class - USS Athena
« Reply #100 on: January 22, 2009, 11:35:47 PM »
Small update:- decked her our, using the bridge module as a size guide, DJ this thing works out at 20 decks, got a few things in place, the bridges, computer cores, massive 2 storey shuttle bay, all the torp launchers and caches and the deflectors

What you think?

20 decks @ ~450 meters sounds about right. Voyager had a similar basic shape to the Sun Tzu Class, was about 340 meters in length, with a deck count of 15.
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Re: Sun Tzu Class - USS Athena
« Reply #101 on: January 23, 2009, 12:20:12 AM »
Hey Darran, I would add a few more turbo lift shafts to like engineering and such. Just one simple shaft seems too small and short for a ship like this.

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Re: Sun Tzu Class - USS Athena
« Reply #102 on: January 23, 2009, 04:40:42 AM »
Hey Darran, I would add a few more turbo lift shafts to like engineering and such. Just one simple shaft seems too small and short for a ship like this.

I will be, it's just at 3am, my stamina got the better of me and I went to bed

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Re: Sun Tzu Class - USS Athena
« Reply #103 on: January 23, 2009, 07:28:52 AM »
I just thought of something.

The nacelle pylons join to the hull at the bottom, so a warp drive far away wouldn't make much since.  It's been a while since we've seen a horizontal warp drive.  I recall something in the history of the Delta ships that one of them would have a horizontal warp drive (DJ?)

So maybe the warp drive can be horizontal, so that way it can be low enough to not be far from the start of the pylons.

This could make ejection faster, as well as expose a critical hardpoint on the invincible Sun Tzu.  :twisted:

EDIT- Found it in "Enterprise F", a theory on Century-class design, released with the Enterprise F.

"....the other two ships of Delta-3. Whilst the new core fit into the Vivace, the height of the core required it be mounted axially in the Allegra, running most of the length of the ship.
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Re: Sun Tzu Class - USS Athena
« Reply #104 on: January 23, 2009, 07:49:51 AM »
Looks really good so far, Darran.  Deck number seems about right, as you correctly inferred that the saucer rim is one deck tall.  I also really like the color scheme you've got going, and I think it would suit a bridge retexture really well.  I'm going to contact Mark to see if a Prometheus bridge edit is okay. 

Couple things...

Use the current registry just as a placeholder, all the regs for my ship have some significance, but it will have to be in the 90,000+ range.  I'll hammer out an exact number on the weekend. 

Also, the ship that will be released will be the USS Athena, so if the name on the msd could reflect that, that would be perfect.  I love how it's shaping up so far.

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Re: Sun Tzu Class - USS Athena
« Reply #105 on: January 23, 2009, 08:47:50 AM »
Oh, and don't forget the matter and the antimatter storage (matter being a LOT bigger than anti matter) Darran. Look at cross section schems of cannon ships for that. Also, you might wanna make the computer core radiuses about 50% greater.
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Re: Sun Tzu Class - USS Athena
« Reply #106 on: January 23, 2009, 08:50:34 AM »
Very early texture work.

I'm going to go with a raised panel look like Voyager, though I plan to add a great deal of paneling detail over an above what is seen on Voyager, which is rather plain.

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Re: Sun Tzu Class - USS Athena
« Reply #107 on: January 23, 2009, 08:56:00 AM »
Beautiful ship!

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Re: Sun Tzu Class - USS Athena
« Reply #108 on: January 23, 2009, 12:25:05 PM »
Hey Darran, I would add a few more turbo lift shafts to like engineering and such. Just one simple shaft seems too small and short for a ship like this.

I will be, it's just at 3am, my stamina got the better of me and I went to bed

Alright, nice turbolift work though.

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Re: Sun Tzu Class - USS Athena
« Reply #109 on: January 23, 2009, 12:36:19 PM »
Anyone else having problems with Darran's pic? I can't get it to show...

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Re: Sun Tzu Class - USS Athena
« Reply #110 on: January 23, 2009, 01:19:31 PM »
 :deadimage

yeah i cant see it either. anyway the prelim texture looks good. i like the darker shade, and how thick and armored the plates look. moar pl0x

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Re: Sun Tzu Class - USS Athena
« Reply #111 on: January 23, 2009, 04:34:16 PM »
strange...   pic seems fine on my end...

ill upload it all the same in case anyone else is not able to see it...

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Re: Sun Tzu Class - USS Athena
« Reply #112 on: January 23, 2009, 04:36:17 PM »
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Odd colour scheme. And seemingly too much gradient-ness (if there is such a word).
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Re: Sun Tzu Class - USS Athena
« Reply #113 on: January 23, 2009, 05:07:57 PM »
It's my crack at a 25th C colour scheme, the gradients are supposed to be indicative of reflections, i think it makes the image more vibrant less flat, anyhoo heres an update, too onboard the advice and laid the core horizontal, the space either side will house the various storage tanks, added holodecks and finished the shuttle bay (that type 11 took an age to draw!!!), oh and corrected the name, this thing is still a long way off done but I am considering taking up the full bridge retexture once the exams are over



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Re: Sun Tzu Class - USS Athena
« Reply #114 on: January 23, 2009, 06:09:21 PM »
This is really shaping up nicely.  My idea on the warp core... Did you ask DJ about that?  LOL.  Anyways, love the detail, that's awesome.  Love your work - why didn't you show up sooner?!?  :lol:

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Re: Sun Tzu Class - USS Athena
« Reply #115 on: January 23, 2009, 06:48:05 PM »
Darran I cant see youre most recent one either, so I dont think this is a random occurance. My suggestion is to stop using ImageShack and upload straight to the board. Seems to work fine for most people.

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Re: Sun Tzu Class - USS Athena
« Reply #116 on: January 23, 2009, 07:23:38 PM »
looks awesome Darran, and I for one really like the color scheme.  Darran, have you got max?

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Re: Sun Tzu Class - USS Athena
« Reply #117 on: January 23, 2009, 09:29:21 PM »
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Re: Sun Tzu Class - USS Athena
« Reply #118 on: January 23, 2009, 09:29:53 PM »
FYI Imageshack seems to be banned here. I've had problems using it on these boards since the link restrictions.

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Re: Sun Tzu Class - USS Athena
« Reply #119 on: January 23, 2009, 09:42:26 PM »
Barihawk, I think that if you and Darran want to team up, with my help, on editing the Prometheus bridge for this, I'd be game.  The only thing is that permission is required before we begin.