Early 25th Century Cardassian Warship

[Darkthunder]

I don't know, wasn't it like 60 years before the United States allowed Japan to build an offensive fighting force after WWII?

The Federation is not the United States, and the Cardassian Union is not Japan. While there may be some similarities to real world countries or organisations etc, does not mean they are based "identically".

One thing i'd say, is that there is ofcourse the possibility that in the 25th century, Cardassia may have applied for membership within the Federation. And thus, as Cardassians, they would likely want to continue to maintain a fleet of ships of their own. There is evidence of member worlds having their own ships or military services. Such as the Andorian High Guard, or the all-Vulcan crew of the T'Kumbra (note the lack of a USS in said name). The latter ship wasn't seen in canon either, only mentioned.

On topic: The ship is really shaping up quite nicely. It's like a futuristic, sleeker variant of the Galor class warships of the 24th Century. Will be interesting to see if you'll equip it with equally futuristic weaponry based on past Cardassian design.

[Psyco Diver]

I don't know, wasn't it like 60 years before the United States allowed Japan to build an offensive fighting force after WWII?

Yea but after WWI Germany was limited on its armed forces and look what happened not even 15 years later.

If BC is canon, then obviously they could build a sizable force without the federation noticing. Plus if romulans sun does blow up that could disrupt the balance of power in the alpha quadrant causing a build of in Cardassian forces

[FarShot]

There is evidence of member worlds having their own ships or military services. Such as the Andorian High Guard, or the all-Vulcan crew of the T'Kumbra (note the lack of a USS in said name). The latter ship wasn't seen in canon either, only mentioned.

I've always thought this, a reason why Starfleet is so full of humans.  And remember, STXI establishes that the Vulcan Science Academy was Spock's alternative to Starfleet.  I like to think that the VSA had its own fleet of ships, of Vulcan design as well.

[Shadowknight1]

I think it all depends on two things: 1)DJ's own history for his version of the 25th century(obviously different from the "canon") and 2) Just how well armed it is.

[MarkyD]

 

DJ That is sleeeeek   

Love it 

[DJ Curtis]

Glad you guys like the way it's shaping up.  Please feel free to offer ideas and suggestions, as I've never done a ship like this.

Added some details.

[Morgan]

I would give the deflector dish a blue color like in this Galor shot I'm attaching (I think it would look really good with the hull color you have). The only other thing I can think of would be some windows on the top body section.

[DJ Curtis]

Window on the top are planned.  I will also experiment with that color for the deflector when I get to it.

[Locke]

Nero: is that shot from TNG?  I don't remember any of the Galors having blue deflectors in DS9.  And aren't they more of a weapon emplacement?  That's where the phasers always fired from.  But I guess it could function as both.  Perhaps the bright outlines are the phasers and the dark parts are the deflector?  Or perhaps it's a cage over the deflector?

Perhaps you could do a variation on this, DJ.  Something like a phaser emitter cage surrounding the main deflector.  It might add some nice visual dimension to the "neck".

[DJ Curtis]

My plan atm is to have that part serve as both deflector and a strong custom pulse weapon.

[FarShot]

DJ, I certainly hope this isn't your last alien ship.  Most other modders overuse specs and such, producing a very CGI look.  I have to say that your ships certainly feel the most visceral.  The color variations and lighter (as opposed to harsher) paneling remind me of the good ole days of studio models.  Which is why I fly your Season 1 Enterprise every time I pull out BC.  I'd love to see some Romulan ships with your touch.

[DJ Curtis]

like this? 

This is an OLD model.  I think I made this in 2005.  It's Atolm's Shora, though not entirely accurate.  Before anyone asks though, this model won't see BC.  It's a mess from my "haven't figured out how to build a good unified mesh" days.  lol

[Morgan]

Nero: is that shot from TNG?

It's just a generic publicity shot that I pulled from Ex Astris Scientia.

That Romulan ship looks a lot like the Griffin-class from Star Trek: Armada.

[FarShot]

like this? 

This is an OLD model.  I think I made this in 2005.  It's Atolm's Shora, though not entirely accurate.  Before anyone asks though, this model won't see BC.  It's a mess from my "haven't figured out how to build a good unified mesh" days.  lol

Hmm, you said "this model".  Is it possible we'll see another iteration?  Looks pretty freaking awesome.

[ACES_HIGH]

Nero: is that shot from TNG?  I don't remember any of the Galors having blue deflectors in DS9.  And aren't they more of a weapon emplacement?  That's where the phasers always fired from.  But I guess it could function as both.  Perhaps the bright outlines are the phasers and the dark parts are the deflector?  Or perhaps it's a cage over the deflector?

Perhaps you could do a variation on this, DJ.  Something like a phaser emitter cage surrounding the main deflector.  It might add some nice visual dimension to the "neck".

The deflector was recolored red on film, that's probably an unedited still picture of the model, that's also why most of the windows are just painted blue and aren't lit.

[DJ Curtis]

Drex files has a great set of references for the Galor which has given me lots of ideas.  I decided to go with a black and red scheme for the deflector after seeing some shots from DS9 and really liking that look over the blue.  Thanks for the suggestion, though, Locke.  Also added a bunch of windows and other details, etc.

Farshot---> Never built another.

After I'm done making the textures in max, I'm going to go to Photoshop and see about giving the ship a slight bit of Cardie style weathering.

[FarShot]

Farshot---> Never built another.

Oh I might like "we'll see another future iteration".  I'm not implying you've made one, I'm implying will you make one.

I like that deflector scheme.  Will the red parts glow and the black parts not glow?

[Morgan]

I decided to go with a black and red scheme for the deflector after seeing some shots from DS9 and really liking that look over the blue.  Thanks for the suggestion, though, Locke.

Actually that was my suggestion...

Anyways the black/red scheme doesn't look too shabby either.

[Psyco Diver]

What role will she play? Destroyer, cruiser, battleship? She looks like a fast battle cruiser to me, maybe pocket battleship? If she can't outgun it, she can outrun it, if she can't outrun it, she can out gun in.

[FarShot]

If she can't outgun it, she can outrun it, if she can't outrun it, she can out gun in.

I like that philosophy.  Sounds like a good objective for the hp, DJ.