Would this be feasible...

[FarShot]

One thing that annoys me about most space games is that suns are not eye-hurtingly bright.  Would it be possible in BC to have a super bright light emit from every sun, but then have a button in Kiska's options to "polarize the viewscreen"?

[Bones]

wouldn't it require pixel shader, bloom or hdr... or anything that cause overbright effect ??? I guess BC engine is too old for such addition

[Villain]

Never say never. Freelancer is about as old and someone managed to tack a bloom effect onto it, looks pretty neat too. Also, look har far BC has come itself, and I recall the older modders having said things they didn't think possible initially have become reality. Surely its possible to some degree.

[Billz]

Never say never. Freelancer is about as old and someone managed to tack a bloom effect onto it, looks pretty neat too. Also, look har far BC has come itself, and I recall the older modders having said things they didn't think possible initially have become reality. Surely its possible to some degree.

BC uses a completely different engine to Freelancer. As in, what may be possible in Freelancer, may most likely not be possible in BC.

In this case, it is a no win scenerio. BC would never be able to support Bloom effects or whatever they are called. Best wait for ST: Excalibur.

Is it possible in STO though?

[Nebula]

IIRC Bloom is in STO

[Villain]

Never say never. Freelancer is about as old and someone managed to tack a bloom effect onto it, looks pretty neat too. Also, look har far BC has come itself, and I recall the older modders having said things they didn't think possible initially have become reality. Surely its possible to some degree.

BC uses a completely different engine to Freelancer. As in, what may be possible in Freelancer, may most likely not be possible in BC.

In this case, it is a no win scenerio. BC would never be able to support Bloom effects or whatever they are called. Best wait for ST: Excalibur.

Is it possible in STO though?

See, there is a thing I like to call "A viable comparison", in where I compare something to another thing to help get a point across. I also never stated they used the same engine. It was an attempt to point out that just because something is old does not mean new things cannot be brought in. Wormholes, Galactic War Simulator, Life Support, New Bridges....

IIRC Bloom is in STO

If it wasn't that would be quite poor. ;) Quite positive the screenshots I had seen even predating release had Bloom. But even Cryptic wouldn't cheap out on something so standard (now).

[Nebula]

See, there is a thing I like to call "A viable comparison", in where I compare something to another thing to help get a point across. I also never stated they used the same engine. It was an attempt to point out that just because something is old does not mean new things cannot be brought in. Wormholes, Galactic War Simulator, Life Support, New Bridges....

What is preventing Bloom to be incorporated into BC is the desired code that needs to be modified/changed is locked away in the exe. (not to mention the engine may need a complete overhaul to even begin to be thinking about this)

[Kirk]

Isn't BC's "Enhanced Glows" like bloom effects? Picture related.

[Villain]

Unless somehow you can tack it on, as I initially had mentioned. I'm well aware that there are many things that cannot be outright changed, merely was considering that perhaps something that works outside of it (if you get what I mean, which I doubt because I suck at explaining  :roll). Anyway, it's a nice thought.

[Bones]

I think we will need to wait until Excalibur is finished if we really want 'Crysis' among Trek games graphics on STE are simply astonishing

[Kirk]

You do realize Excal is a long way off, right? I had an idea earlier I voiced to Prime. Would it be possible to take the "enhanced glow" effect and apply it to all materials and make the glow amount light sensitive?

[Bones]

I'm not going anywhere ;) I can wait, besides, perfection cannot be rushed.

[deadthunder2_0]

why not make a planet that has a self ilum texture that looks like a star's surface, then do what nano did for atmospheres, put a star in the planet to make it glow more?

[Bones]

Idea is good but that doesn't settle 'blinding' effect so when you look at the sun, whole screen gets a lot brighter.

[NeoKaede]

Freespace 2 (1999) had this: when you faced a sun, the entire screen became very bright. Maybe the same can be done for BC, raising a lot the Gamma values when the in-game camera is aligned with a star?

[Bones]

I like that effect in STL so the overbright disappears after a second and screen returns to normal

[Maxloef]

I like that effect in STL so the overbright disappears after a second and screen returns to normal

Thats HDR your thinking of and requires actual engine modification wich is ONE illigal and TWO impossible cause weed need the source code

[Bones]

I like that effect in STL so the overbright disappears after a second and screen returns to normal

Thats HDR your thinking of and requires actual engine modification wich is ONE illigal and TWO impossible cause weed need the source code

yup, and this means it won't be achieveable without source code which we're not getting anytime soon (more likely never)... pity

[Lionus]

Why? Star Trek Excalibur is already on it's way, they're doing the job for us..  :evil

[Bones]

I like that effect in STL so the overbright disappears after a second and screen returns to normal

Thats HDR your thinking of and requires actual engine modification wich is ONE illigal and TWO impossible cause weed need the source code

yup, and this means it won't be achieveable without source code which we're not getting anytime soon (more likely never)... pity

If only we could give the BC devs a call and beg :/

wasn't such call done few times ? at least two times IIRC afterall it's 8 years, dev crew is long time gone and do is the source code