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Re: [Regal] Class
« Reply #100 on: July 16, 2010, 03:15:21 PM »
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Perhaps you can release the starship frames like cliperkins did a while back for several ships?

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Re: [Regal] Class
« Reply #101 on: July 16, 2010, 06:36:41 PM »
Hmmm . . . only if the need is there.  Right now I'm just trying to get the thing into BC . . . :roll

Am I going too overboard with the detail, here?  Should I just texture these on?

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Re: [Regal] Class
« Reply #102 on: July 16, 2010, 11:05:33 PM »
Texture those and the interiors because they'll look rubbish in BC's engine.

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Re: [Regal] Class
« Reply #103 on: July 16, 2010, 11:47:42 PM »
Texture those and the interiors because they'll look rubbish in BC's engine.

You mean texture them instead of poly modeling them?  The interiors will look fine.  They look great on most other ships I see with them.

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Re: [Regal] Class
« Reply #104 on: July 17, 2010, 02:02:14 AM »
Is it possible for pieces of ships to be blown off?  I mean I know pieces of ships can break away but you usually see right through the ship then.  It would be interesting if you could see the top of that room break away and you see right into the room itself.  Kind of like when the bridge of the alternate reality NX-01 was blow away.

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Re: [Regal] Class
« Reply #105 on: July 17, 2010, 02:08:00 AM »
one of DJ's ships is like this...
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Re: [Regal] Class
« Reply #106 on: July 17, 2010, 02:45:27 AM »
Is it possible for pieces of ships to be blown off?  I mean I know pieces of ships can break away but you usually see right through the ship then.  It would be interesting if you could see the top of that room break away and you see right into the room itself.  Kind of like when the bridge of the alternate reality NX-01 was blow away.

I suppose it depends on the level of damage inflicted in that spot.  If you think about it, the only difference between the room I'm creating and the space between a Romulan Warbird hulls is the size.  And when you blast away most of a Warbird's dorsal or ventral hull, the other one is still there, right?  So it should show, as long as the damage is minimal in that section.

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Re: [Regal] Class
« Reply #107 on: July 17, 2010, 04:21:20 AM »
I was in one of the Wiley Connies, and the deflector took heavy damage. Let's just say I really got a great view of the trees that he made.  :D
Yea, I imagine there will be some cool looking damage like that with this ship.

I personally love how the pods look myself, The more detail the better I say. If you think they will translate badly in conversion to BC, I would go texturing rout. And a cookie for figuring out your phaser strip problem.  :yay:

She looks awesome so far. :thumbsup:

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Re: [Regal] Class
« Reply #108 on: July 17, 2010, 03:22:19 PM »
You mean texture them instead of poly modeling them?
Yes I do, as clay modeling them in is not an option. The reason I say this is because BC's engine doesn't render shadows and does a poor job of lighting in general. Adding more modeled details on such a small scale will only serve to make these issues more noticeable. In a better engine I'd say go for it, but not in Bridge Commander.

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Re: [Regal] Class
« Reply #109 on: July 20, 2010, 01:13:35 AM »
Well, back finally with an update!  I've been trying to get my texturing method down right, and so far I think I'm on the right track.  Try to ignore the obvious issues and tell me what you think of the saucer top.  It's obviously too dark, which I'll be working on.  But what about the panels themselves?  Are they too "alien" or something?  I can't quite put my finger on it, but something just doesn't seem right.

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Re: [Regal] Class
« Reply #110 on: July 20, 2010, 07:19:10 AM »
well i like what you've done, especially the modelled in escape pods (i may do the same on my ships but indent them :) )

i think the issue you have with the panneling / aztecing? is that its simply quite different to standard starfleet style. iff you look at earlier ships like the ent-1701A to the galaxy and nebula's then you will see that the style they show is more.... symmetrical and also less of an unusual shape for the panels.
what i mean is they are standard shapes like squares and rectangles not trapezoids or quadrilateral shapes.

in general your panels look ok to me but i would say that i have only a couple of preferences:
1) i prefer the symmetrical style.
2) i prefer the lighter colouring of the 1701A and D not the grey scale that seems to be on most ships now.

conclusion

i like your styling, and the only "something" i can see is that its very different to original ships but it seems like the correct way to go after the soverign class and her sister classes such as the norway, steamrunner and others.

(make her bluey-white and i'll lover her lol)
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Re: [Regal] Class
« Reply #111 on: July 20, 2010, 07:33:53 AM »
Based on the scaled images you've shown of the Regal compared to other vessels, I think there should be a bit more hull panelling to give it a greater sense of size.
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Re: [Regal] Class
« Reply #112 on: July 21, 2010, 12:13:52 PM »
Fixed some stuff!  I redid the paneling on the saucer top, as well as started a panel series on the bottom of the saucer.  It's a bit different than usual, but I kinda like it.  Also, the registry and name are mainly placeholders.  Although I'm thinking about leaving the "SX" for the first ship, and continuing with the prefix as SSC-[number].  Pretty much because I think the NCC line is too damn long at this point.  Even earlier numbers (Voyager and Defiant) are too much.  NCC-74656 is just too unmemorable.  I know there are some diehards out there that will tell me it's in the best traditions of Starfleet and whatnot, but I also know that it's completely arbitrary.  It doesn't actually mean a frakking thing.  Read what Matt Jefferies told the BBC about where the "NCC" came from.  At least mine means a bit of something.  "S" for Ship and "SS" for StarShip.  Maybe the "C" means Continuation or Construction.

There is now a Federation symbol on the nose, since I don't want this ship to have any of the usual Starfleet insignia.  It won't have the chevron or the red stripes.  Blue ones are possible, but I'm not sure how that would look or where they would go.  Any suggestions on that?

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Re: [Regal] Class
« Reply #113 on: July 21, 2010, 12:54:07 PM »
nice i like the paleness and the style

the scc-  seems fine to me too (looks at his nx 954266 hmm long reg lol)

the emblem on the front is cool
and using blue stripes sounds good

you're making a very cool looking design style

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Re: [Regal] Class
« Reply #114 on: July 21, 2010, 01:34:50 PM »
you might want to change the direction of the underplating so it flows with the saucer shape instead of it going across it, itll make the hull texture more fluid and very nice ship i like how the design flows

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Re: [Regal] Class
« Reply #115 on: July 21, 2010, 01:58:05 PM »
you might want to change the direction of the underplating so it flows with the saucer shape instead of it going across it, itll make the hull texture more fluid and very nice ship i like how the design flows

Well, there's a certain reason I've got the textures flowing that way.  The designers worked with the Romulans to build this ship.  The underside panels are a legacy trait from the Warbirds.  If you look carefully, it is very similar to the wingspread of the newest Romulan emblem.  It's a similar idea to what was proposed for the development concept of the Vorcha.  There will be at least one other part of the ship with Romulan influences, but I'll get to that later.

Hobbs: how about that blue? ;)

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Re: [Regal] Class
« Reply #116 on: July 21, 2010, 03:16:03 PM »
the fed emblem sounds good to me, it could be a Federation ship but not a part of starfleet if that make sense to u, there must be other part of the united federation of planets ie section 31 this ship could be a section 1 ship

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Re: [Regal] Class
« Reply #117 on: July 21, 2010, 03:31:18 PM »
oops misunderstanding i should have said base texture my bad, sorry about that,

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Re: [Regal] Class
« Reply #118 on: July 21, 2010, 07:39:30 PM »
the blue looks ok to me, but i thought you were meaning the normal red stripe would be blue to match the emblem of the UFP.

the fed emblem sounds good to me, it could be a Federation ship but not a part of starfleet if that make sense to u, there must be other part of the united federation of planets ie section 31 this ship could be a section 1 ship

or it could be a federation diplomacy ship, separate from starfleet as starfleet could be seen by some alpha/beta/ anyother quadrant powers as "military"  the Klingon's certainly do.
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Re: [Regal] Class
« Reply #119 on: July 21, 2010, 08:29:05 PM »
I don't think it's that far-fetched to have a non-Starfleet diplomatic vessel.  The Vulcans still have their own diplomatic ships so why not anyone else?  This ship makes an excellent post-Romulus destruction era ship.  The Romulans are scattered and rebuilding, so it makes sense that somewhere down the line Spock's Reunification movement, even in his absence, can sway some distraught Romulans into "coming home" to Vulcan.  This ship is the end result of years of Federation/Romulan peace.

I definitely like the Ventral aztecing.  Might I suggest SDC-1000 for "Starfleet Diplomatic Corps" or perhaps FDC-1000 for "Federation Diplomatic Corps"?  Then, you can keep the traditional stripes down the Hull and Nacelles, but paint them Blue instead of Red?  Then if you wanted to you could outline the Blue in Gold, reminiscent of Air Force One.  Although, that's been done before lol, (Battlestar Galactica).  

Just ideas I'm tossing out there.