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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #160 on: January 24, 2012, 01:31:46 AM »
Another thing that makes me think that BOP and Ent D are CGI...take a look at the RCS Thrusters in the pic...

It just screams out Generations Enterprise with TNG escape pods at me for some odd reason
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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #161 on: January 24, 2012, 04:05:03 AM »
Apparently, some of the stock footage used for VFX in episodes was misplaced, which is why they use Tobias's galaxy model in some shots. If time and money wasn't an issue, it would have been excellent to see all enterprise appearances use the CGI model. Battles would have looked excellent had they redone them.

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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #162 on: January 24, 2012, 12:42:39 PM »
Nah, I think the physical model holds up very well in HD. I prefer physical models over CG.

But if they did it like that BOP shot, then I wouldn't mind, because I didn't notice it was CG until it was pointed out.

You can really tell they tried to disguise the shot and blend it with the rest, it will probably look better in motion.

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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #163 on: January 24, 2012, 03:55:13 PM »
CGI has come a long way since the days of DS9, Voyager, and even Enterprise.  If done properly, a CGI model is indistinguishable from a physical.

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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #164 on: January 24, 2012, 05:15:16 PM »
What nero's says...


In the beginning voyager pure physical too. Then they used a bit of cgi + physical, and you could clearly see the cgi (very cheesy). Until later in the seasons they mostly used cgi and combined with the traditional flyby physical. Season 7 voyager cgi was splendid imo.

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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #165 on: January 24, 2012, 05:19:11 PM »
Look at B5 cgi.... :uberlol:

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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #166 on: January 24, 2012, 05:47:27 PM »
b5 cgi was not really wauw XD But they had a limited budget.. But euh the latest movie (didn't liked it though) was top notch cgi ;)

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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #167 on: January 24, 2012, 05:53:34 PM »
b5 cgi was not really wauw XD But they had a limited budget.. But euh the latest movie (didn't liked it though) was top notch cgi ;)

True though I reckon it was quite revolutionary for small TV budget and large space battles, though I have a natural dislike for it I don't know why. :/

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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #168 on: January 24, 2012, 05:54:57 PM »
Perhaps you should check it out again ? The stories where actually good (of the serie, the movies after it, were crap imo)

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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #169 on: January 24, 2012, 05:58:25 PM »
Perhaps you should check it out again ? The stories where actually good (of the serie, the movies after it, were crap imo)

Fair enough, I rather liked Star Wrecks mick take out of it though, for a Finnish film of a low budget it was well done.

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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #170 on: January 24, 2012, 06:03:42 PM »
Perhaps you should check it out again ? The stories where actually good (of the serie, the movies after it, were crap imo)

You can't say the first 3 and the 5th were crap. Those were the best xD
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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #171 on: January 24, 2012, 06:09:01 PM »
no no, not all the movies but the "latest".

B5: the beginning
B5: the one that tells everything of the human-minbari war
b5: a call to arms
b5: thirdspace

Those were perfect, very good!

But then you had a movie of the rangers. please, utter crap! And another one, that was divided into two episodes.. Something with religion and a boy of the centauri that is gonna be the son of sheridan. It was terrible...
Wasn't fond of crusade either..

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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #172 on: January 24, 2012, 06:13:03 PM »
Crusade never had a chance. TNT screwed with its airing... non of the eps were released in proper order... then it got canned half way through its first season because TNT no longer wanted a scifi audience. (They even kept the rights to it so it could never be bought by another channel.)

As for B5 the lost tails (first was crap second was quite good imo)

Anyway back to TNG remastered. I preordered the sample disk. I can't wait to see it for myself.
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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #173 on: January 24, 2012, 06:24:16 PM »
Seriously? Why not wait for the entire box or so? I even think bluray.com suggested it and they are extremely correct with their suggestions and reviews imo...

I knew i sold my star trek dvd's to a friend of mine and i read the bluray review of star trek generations/insurrection. I wasn't really impressed with trekcore hd screencaps and after reading the bluray review on the site, i bought it (but keeping the negative points in my head). And they were correct on every stuff they wrote (excellent image quality, so good, that in a few scenes you could see geordi's eyes through his visor) or the crap upscaling of insurrection dvd to bluray quality.

After reading this review, i'm gonna pass and wait like they are saying.


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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #174 on: January 24, 2012, 06:58:31 PM »
Because I want to get it so I can see it with my own two eyes (they gave us this chance so why not?).... Waiting for a box set to buy that is undoubtedly going to be over $100 to see if I really like it is silly.
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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #175 on: January 24, 2012, 07:06:40 PM »
I'm colorblind so i'm already fucked  :funny

Yeah of course, but i'm not gonna buy it instantly, only after lets say 6 months or so.. Price will be cheaper (who knows i can buy it from some friends for a cheap price). Btw, i will need to buy it, because my dvd boxes (the old tng ones, the hard cases) are almost all destroyed. The dvd's got cracked in the casings (they are known for it :( )

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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #176 on: January 24, 2012, 07:59:19 PM »
Odd cause all 7 of my TNG box sets are fine... are we even talking about the same DVD box set?
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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #177 on: January 24, 2012, 08:07:15 PM »
I'll just get my best mate to buy the boxset when it comes out (which he will) and when he does I will do something slightly naughty with them.
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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #178 on: January 25, 2012, 09:19:48 AM »
More HD screenshots over at Trekcore!

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Re: TNG Remastered
« Reply #179 on: January 25, 2012, 11:48:12 AM »
A somewhat interesting interview with Mike and Denise Okuda talking about the remastering project.  Turns out that Klingon Bird-of-Prey shot is a matte painting...

http://trekmovie.com/2012/01/24/interview-mike-denise-okuda-talk-star-trek-tng-the-next-level-part-1/