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Re: Star Trek Online thread
« Reply #3900 on: March 29, 2013, 09:59:33 AM »
If you mean the UI on the live server? Its gone, completely replaced with this. Blue is still the default colour.

No I meant as an option, like how the kdf has orion and gorn options.

Downloading the tribble update now.  at 33% and 1151.9MB :O

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That's the "received" number, not the "patched" number..
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Re: Star Trek Online thread
« Reply #3901 on: March 29, 2013, 10:18:51 AM »
the full patch without the patching on demand is around 6GB.

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Re: Star Trek Online thread
« Reply #3902 on: March 29, 2013, 10:22:00 AM »
the full patch without the patching on demand is around 6GB.

6GB? That's bigger than the base game! :O


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aaaaand it's stuck at 3151.4MB  :argh:


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Finally got in at 1630.  I'm not impressed I must say.  The UI needs a metric sh*t ton of work before it's releasable imo. 

UI fed side is far too dark.  with the brightness at a reasonable level for the game, the UI is unbelievably dark and opaque.  This isn't helped by the fact that everything has been put on weight too, with a thick black border around absolutely everything.  On my tac toon on tribble, my space UI was overlapping everywhere, yet with the equivalent holodeck toon using the old UI, there wasn't a hint of overlap anywhere.
Another concern I have is to do with all the tiny buttons everywhere.  The layout is pretty much the same, but the icons have all been homogenized.  They are visually almost identical.  You really have to look closely to see the difference.  New players will have trouble figuring out which button does what.

The net character creator/tailor is....oh good heavens.  It. Is. Awful. 
75% of the screen is dedicated to one thing, while everything else is crammed in to the other 25%.  Little in the way of labelling, everything looks as if it's just been thrown in there. Hell, they even replaced the race selection menus with crappy looking pictures that don't even have proper tooltips explaining the differences to each race.


:(

Really, the new UI just smacks of "cosmetic change for the sake of it" rather than a full reimplementation that it really deserves. 
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Re: Star Trek Online thread
« Reply #3903 on: March 29, 2013, 01:43:49 PM »
Today's Screenshot, Updated D'Deridex model


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Re: Star Trek Online thread
« Reply #3904 on: March 29, 2013, 01:52:58 PM »
Now that is nice!  But looking at it, the head seems...off.  Then again, I'm working off memory.

But yeah, that's a nice looking boat :D
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Re: Star Trek Online thread
« Reply #3905 on: March 29, 2013, 03:05:05 PM »
Looks nice. Not strictly "canon", but it does look rather nice. I suppose any alterations to the model, they'll blame on a "2409 refit" :P

In other news, I think they did a great job on the new UI. Just hope they get around to additional polishing before pushing it live. The UI isn't "bad", but it looks a bit too cartoony in places.
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Re: Star Trek Online thread
« Reply #3906 on: March 29, 2013, 03:24:37 PM »
Info Dump in the form of a Ask Cryptic

http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=852601

It mentions that there will be 25th Century Versions of existing ships, plus 2 unique designs.

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« Reply #3907 on: March 29, 2013, 04:00:04 PM »
HAHA, oh man, where do I start???

Well, it looks like STO isn't getting a THIRD faction after all. Instead, reading the Ask Cryptic, it seems that you can start a new character as a Romulan or Reman, and you get (likely) a handful of new story missions, to bring you into the lore of the species. But after a few levels, you are given the CHOICE of joining the FED faction, or the KDF. This was likely done so that they wouldn't have to create new unique assets for things such as Fleet Starbases (5 tiers) and a new Embassy for Romulans.

In comparison, they went the route of Blizzard in Mists of Pandaria: You create a Pandaren at level 1, play a few levels, and then you choose to be either Alliance or Horde, and that choice is permanent.

Lore-wise, they are basically saying that both the FEDs and the KDF are perfectly fine being allied with Romulans. Call me a lore-whore, but i'm pretty sure most KDF wouldn't be to happy to help, much less be allied with, the Romulans.
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Re: Star Trek Online thread
« Reply #3908 on: March 29, 2013, 04:17:07 PM »
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Romulans still continue their own independent mission journal and storyline after this choice, remaining neutral within the Romulan faction, but the choice has an impact on their progression towards end-game.

So there are still unique Romulan missions after the choice.

You can't play KDF only missions or FED only missions as a Romulan unless you're teamed with someone doing that mission.

Featured Episodes are open to them tho.

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« Reply #3909 on: March 29, 2013, 04:29:52 PM »
Remains to be seen if there actually will be any new unique content after you ally yourself with FEDs or KDF. Just because they say that there will be, doesn't mean it to be true. We've all heard these stories in the past (promises made, promises broken... repeatedly)

Suffice it to say, my optimism of the May update just took a massive turn for the worse.

Remember the days of them complaining about the "silhouette of ships must be visible", so as to make it easier to identify which ships you are fighting in PVP? Imagine the problems in seeing a FED D'Deridex on the same map as a KDF D'Deridex. Sure, you have a colored targeting reticule, but what about the color blind folks? Will it say which faction the ship belongs to at a glance?
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« Reply #3910 on: March 29, 2013, 04:33:36 PM »
There will need to be enough content to get from 1 to 50. And since Romulans can't do KDF or FED missions other then the Featured series, they would need missions there.

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Re: Star Trek Online thread
« Reply #3911 on: March 29, 2013, 04:51:12 PM »
There will need to be enough content to get from 1 to 50. And since Romulans can't do KDF or FED missions other then the Featured series, they would need missions there.

We ran into that same problem with the KDF before they essentially cut it in half in response to the criticism. More often than not, people played (and, in some cases, replayed) the FEs to get through the levels.
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Re: Star Trek Online thread
« Reply #3912 on: March 29, 2013, 04:55:41 PM »
1-50 is coming back to the KDF with LOR, so we'll see what they did there to do that.

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« Reply #3913 on: March 29, 2013, 05:16:01 PM »
Like I said, they've made plenty of promises like this in the past. Most of which, became utterly broken over time. Remains to be seen if they have changed their modus operandi, but I doubt it :P
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Re: Star Trek Online thread
« Reply #3914 on: March 29, 2013, 05:19:13 PM »
Well I've been Data mining again, I've found references to at least 15 Romulan Missions. They are Mission Journal Images. But they're all place holder images, all they say is the mission name and what maps are used.

One of them is called "The Helix" and combined with the Suliban skin texture and the Suliban Cells ships + Station in the game files, I'm going to say it deals with them.

4 of the Missions are Tutorials. So that leaves 11 non-tutorial missions. Add the featured episodes to that number and you get 31 missions.

Some of them say 'Fed' in them. Either that means they're Romulan missions if you're Fed aligned, or something else. If my first guess is right, there will be Klingon versions as well.



I also confirmed who the new enemies are.

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Re: Star Trek Online thread
« Reply #3915 on: March 29, 2013, 07:12:08 PM »
Some additional posts from Dan

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=8898731&postcount=179
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=8897471&postcount=157
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=8899591&postcount=191
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=8900031&postcount=197
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=8900641&postcount=213
You choose your alliance at level 10.

The Romulan Republic Story Line is a Prequel to both New Romulus and the Romulan Featured Episode series. All the Romulan story missions take place before new Romulus, none of the stories are after.

You should finish the new Content by level 40, then its Featured Episodes and endgame content until 50.

So that would put them roughly were the Fed was at launch.

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Re: Star Trek Online thread
« Reply #3916 on: March 29, 2013, 07:49:57 PM »
Well, I got banned from the STO forums for what they call "Flaming/Trolling". The ban is indefinite, so I won't be making any further posts over there. Reason for my ban, was because I commented on a thread that their recent "General server stability fixes" didn't fix a damned thing. Instead, it made the server further unbalanced and laggy. The post was ofcourse removed, and since I was indefinitely banned, I can't even read the PM from Mr BranFlakes.

So congratulations to Cryptic, making my decision to quit funding them all the more easier.
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Re: Star Trek Online thread
« Reply #3917 on: March 29, 2013, 07:59:39 PM »
I can't even read the PM from Mr BranFlakes.

you could send him a message on twitter

Or file a "Forums and Website" support ticket https://support.perfectworld.com/

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Re: Star Trek Online thread
« Reply #3918 on: March 29, 2013, 08:06:12 PM »
You're joking darkie?! you must be?!
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« Reply #3919 on: March 29, 2013, 08:11:01 PM »
Not a joke. My main account was banned indefinitely for "Flaming/Trolling". I -had- a backup account which I rarely posted on, which has been banned now as well. So to them, I say: F--k em! I spent hundreds of dollars on the game. In the words of Capt Picard, "This far, no further".

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