Author Topic: Shuttle Launches in HP [manual setup] (Read 5821 times)

tiqhud · « **on:** January 19, 2009, 04:44:11 PM »

Very Important, after some trial & error with a ships Hardpoint, (in the HP there Must be the same name for your Shuttle Bay an your Shuttle Bay OEP)

Example Shuttle Bay an Shuttle Bay OEP , is OK , However Shuttle Bay an Main Shuttle Bay will not work. at least I could not get it to Launch.

MLeo · « **Reply #1 on:** January 19, 2009, 04:59:42 PM »

Are you sure you have written down everything? The parentheses () seem to imply that you wanted to add something after the comma (,) yet before the ().

tiqhud · « **Reply #2 on:** January 19, 2009, 05:08:12 PM »

Quote from: MLeo on January 19, 2009, 04:59:42 PM

Are you sure you have written down everything? The parentheses () seem to imply that you wanted to add something after the comma (,) yet before the ().

well I was going to start the line with the Example up there, but figured it would be best viewed down a-bit, I just neglected to remove it, Thanks for clarifying though

MLeo · « **Reply #3 on:** January 19, 2009, 05:13:45 PM »

Btw, what types does the not-OEP and the OEP hardpoitns need to be? Hull? Emitter?

tiqhud · « **Reply #4 on:** January 19, 2009, 05:50:22 PM »

Quote from: MLeo on January 19, 2009, 05:13:45 PM

Btw, what types does the not-OEP and the OEP hardpoitns need to be? Hull? Emitter?

Yes the actual shuttle bay is a Hull property named Shuttle Bay and the Shuttle Bay OEP is a object emitter named Shuttle Bay OEP. and there need to be Both of them in the HPs .

JimmyB76 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 19, 2009, 07:34:24 PM »

if you have KM, there is a doc folder... in that folder, there is a Tech Framework folder...
within that, is a tutorial about making ships capable of launching shuttles, which says that...

tiqhud · « **Reply #6 on:** January 19, 2009, 08:37:41 PM »

Quote from: JimmyB76 on January 19, 2009, 07:34:24 PM

if you have KM, there is a doc folder... in that folder, there is a Tech Framework folder...
within that, is a tutorial about making ships capable of launching shuttles, which says that...

Good

Worf359Alpha · « **Reply #7 on:** August 06, 2009, 05:28:24 PM »

For any1 lookin to launch shuttles or Fighters from their ship/s you need to have the same name in the ship property in the HP as well as the shuttle launch script. for instance ship property "Neghvar" in the HardPoint and "Neghvar" for the name of the launching script in scripts/custom/carriers. That eluded me for somtime when i was carrierizing all my ships.

ACES_HIGH · « **Reply #8 on:** August 06, 2009, 05:35:16 PM »

Quote from: Worf359Alpha on August 06, 2009, 05:28:24 PM

For any1 lookin to launch shuttles or Fighters from their ship/s you need to have the same name in the ship property in the HP as well as the shuttle launch script. for instance ship property "Neghvar" in the HardPoint and "Neghvar" for the name of the launching script in scripts/custom/carriers. That eluded me for somtime when i was carrierizing all my ships.

the carrier script creator on Defiant's website does that automatically.
http://defiant.homedns.org/~erik/STBC/carrier/

of course that also means that if you have multiple ships i.e. Galaxy, Venture, Enterprise-D, and they all have the same ship property name, i.e. Galaxy, they will all load the carrier file for the same ship, in this case Galaxy.

Mario · « **Reply #9 on:** August 07, 2009, 12:08:08 PM »

Alternatively if you want something localized (a program) you can use BCUT's carrier creator which also creates ship carrier plugins. BC Tools->Carrier Creator.

ACES_HIGH · « **Reply #10 on:** August 07, 2009, 07:45:51 PM »

I forgot about that one.

Worf359Alpha · « **Reply #11 on:** August 09, 2009, 03:31:56 AM »

Nice!, ive been manualy making carrier plugins for my collection of ships, and though im comfertible with it, thats a nice way to make it easy :lol:

tiqhud · « **Reply #12 on:** August 10, 2009, 02:42:46 PM »

Quote from: Worf359Alpha on August 09, 2009, 03:31:56 AM

Nice!, ive been manualy making carrier plugins for my collection of ships, and though im comfertible with it, thats a nice way to make it easy :lol:

and it is easy

dEjavU · « **Reply #13 on:** November 17, 2009, 04:12:32 AM »

I need a little help please? I've been trying for some time now(off and on)to get my NX Enterprise(http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/NX_Class_Mod_Pack_MEDIUM;41033)to launch the NX shuttle(http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/NX_01_shuttle_pod;21080)with no luck. I try to use Defiants' carrier file creator web link, ran it through but I get this everytime....

sorry, bad hardpoint file: unable to find a shuttle oep emitter

After having read down this thread twice and having gone through the entire HP file for this particular ship I realize that this model doesn't have a Shuttle Bay OEP, can somebody tell me how do I add this OEP emitter to this ship?

tiqhud · « **Reply #14 on:** November 17, 2009, 08:17:55 AM »

Quote from: dEjavU on November 17, 2009, 04:12:32 AM

I need a little help please? I've been trying for some time now(off and on)to get my NX Enterprise(http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/NX_Class_Mod_Pack_MEDIUM;41033)to launch the NX shuttle(http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/NX_01_shuttle_pod;21080)
After having read down this thread twice and having gone through the entire HP file for this particular ship I realize that this model doesn't have a Shuttle Bay OEP, can somebody tell me how do I add this OEP emitter to this ship?

If you have MPE, they can be added very easily, but I recomend HIGHLY, Not doing this manually, it is just to easy to mess-up, and overwrite something vital, like a period or comma.

And you need then to add 2 things Shuttle Bay and then Shuttle Bay OEP, in order for it to work.

dEjavU · « **Reply #15 on:** November 17, 2009, 10:17:31 AM »

Thanks Tiq but I'm been having trouble getting ship properties to show up right whenever I try to load a ship in MPE(kinda keep getting discouraged from using it because of this)not much specifics on how to actually load ships that are not currently in the GlobalPropertyTemplates file..so instead, after pouring through ships after ships I ended up running into your Bonaventure that you scripted to launch shuttles(http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/Bonaventure_shuttle_launching;91898). I guess I used it as a template, copied both Shuttle Bay1 and the Shuttle Bay OEP parts into my NXEnterprise HP. Hek I even used the ships carrier file and just taylored it to my NX ship. It works great except for the fact that the shuttles are launching from the rear of the ship(not very cannon). Any chance I can get some help with the re-positioning to have them launch forward?

tiqhud · « **Reply #16 on:** November 17, 2009, 11:39:52 AM »

Quote from: dEjavU on November 17, 2009, 10:17:31 AM

Thanks Tiq but I'm been having trouble getting ship properties to show up right whenever I try to load a ship in MPE(kinda keep getting discouraged from using it because of this)
I even used the ships carrier file and just taylored it to my NX ship. It works great except for the fact that the shuttles are launching from the rear of the ship(not very cannon). Any chance I can get some help with the re-positioning to have them launch forward?

Dont give-up on MPE, yes at the beggining it is very Hard. but worth the effort.
Look here tooo http://bcs-tng.com/forums/index.php?board=76.0 might help

suee it can be fixed for you, just upload the Hp here

dEjavU · « **Reply #17 on:** November 17, 2009, 09:08:12 PM »

:eek Oh man, I'm such an idiot! The reason the ship properties are not loading right in MPE was because I kept loading the ship's .PY file and not the ships HP file. Thanks Tiq for the link, helped clear out another question I have for quite some time about making docking possible for non-dockable stations(it's patricaly the same as scripting a ship to launch shuttles isn't it)anyways I saved the page for further future reference, I have a feeling I'm going to need it again.

Okay here's the ships HP file, the additions I made is towards the end of the file. I had an idea last night about salvaging the ship's original shuttle bays that the NX model came with and see if they can launch with a taylored OEP entry driving them, I'll post back to see if it works......

dEjavU · « **Reply #18 on:** November 17, 2009, 09:58:04 PM »

Sorry, I don't mean to ask anymore of you but seeing as how these two problems are somewhat related can I ask what to do about the shuttles not responding to any recall commands. I don't understand, the shuttle recall works on allot of my ships but for some reason some ships, like this NX model here, the return shuttle command don't work right? Have you ever ran into this problem before?

Okay it didn't work the way I expected(it's the same exit point and direction for the shuttles as with the first attempt)so now I see that the OEP is actually the emitter point in the model where that particular system(in this case the shuttle bay)is executed from. I've edited all four shuttle bays that the ship came with but the coordinates for each OEP entries are all the same so the shuttles are all coming out the same way in the same direction

Tiq can you help me out here. Here's the HP for the salvaged shuttle bays with the one OEP driving them, again the alterations are all at the end of the file....

tiqhud · « **Reply #19 on:** November 18, 2009, 08:17:34 AM »

Quote from: dEjavU on November 17, 2009, 09:58:04 PM

Sorry, I don't mean to ask anymore of you but seeing as how these two problems are somewhat related can I ask what to do about the shuttles not responding to any recall commands. I don't understand, the shuttle recall works on allot of my ships but for some reason some ships, like this NX model here, the return shuttle command don't work right? Have you ever ran into this problem before?

Actually, this is common, the Hull radius on the Shuttle [you are recalling] is large than the radius of the shuttle bay.

maybe this will work for you, if I put-up the right one.

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