Author Topic: Considering bump maps...supported in BC? (Read 7537 times)

Raven Night · « **on:** March 01, 2009, 01:42:39 AM »

Just a quick inquiry. Im working on the Warhammer, and would like to add bump maps to this model, to go along with my speculars. Are they supported in BC, and if so what is the recommended format?

lint · « **Reply #1 on:** March 01, 2009, 02:00:42 AM »

nope, Bump maps are not supported in BC,

Furyofaseraph · « **Reply #2 on:** March 01, 2009, 04:05:17 AM »

Quote from: lint on March 01, 2009, 02:00:42 AM

nope, Bump maps are not supported in BC,

lame

no bump maps, no normal maps?

god we need a new engine...

HEY WAIT!!!

limey BSc. · « **Reply #3 on:** March 01, 2009, 05:33:13 AM »

You can add them to the textures though. Jb has managed it on several ships. I think its just applying them as a bump layer in Photoshop.

MarkyD · « **Reply #4 on:** March 01, 2009, 07:18:49 AM »

Quote from: limey98 on March 01, 2009, 05:33:13 AM

You can add them to the textures though. Jb has managed it on several ships. I think its just applying them as a bump layer in Photoshop.

Bump layer?? I am unfamiliar with this, as far as I know to have bumps on a ship you can ether have a bump map, and assign it to the material rollout to allow max to bump the texture. Or you can phsically draw the bump effect yourself with bevells. Or.. you can bump map and then bake the textures to your model.

If their is another way I would like to read about it

limey BSc. · « **Reply #5 on:** March 01, 2009, 07:23:59 AM »

Jb would be far more adept to explain it than me.

Dalek · « **Reply #6 on:** March 01, 2009, 07:29:58 AM »

If you have Photoshop or GIMP: (this is for GIMP and I imagine its similar for Photoshop as well),

1. Open up the textures
2. Go to "Filters"
3. Go down to "Maps"
4. Select the one called "Bump Map"
5. Play with settings
6. Finish
7. Add on your alpha or whatever.

Bones · « **Reply #7 on:** March 01, 2009, 08:13:32 AM »

Quote from: limey98 on March 01, 2009, 05:33:13 AM

You can add them to the textures though. Jb has managed it on several ships. I think its just applying them as a bump layer in Photoshop.

but BC will ignore that new layer with bump maps, am I right ?

Shino Tenshi · « **Reply #8 on:** March 01, 2009, 08:13:58 AM »

That will result in kind of strange bumps.
Rather go for the beavel-method.
If you have your textures in *.psd format, select the part that should "stick-out" and go to blending-settings on the layers and add the beavel-effect. (play with teh settings of course. ;) )

Dalek · « **Reply #9 on:** March 01, 2009, 08:23:47 AM »

Quote from: Dr_McCoy1701A on March 01, 2009, 08:13:32 AM

Quote from: limey98 on March 01, 2009, 05:33:13 AM
You can add them to the textures though. Jb has managed it on several ships. I think its just applying them as a bump layer in Photoshop.

but BC will ignore that new layer with bump maps, am I right ?

No, you are not right. It's part of the texture. Heres my original Arcadia with bumps. I never released the Arcadia with bumps and I think you can tell the difference.

Villain · « **Reply #10 on:** March 01, 2009, 08:36:40 AM »

No offense but I can't see any change. Might just be the resolution but it just looks the same to me. :S

Dalek · « **Reply #11 on:** March 01, 2009, 08:39:24 AM »

Look at the name and reg. Notice how it appears to be embedded into the hull? And also the windows, instead of them being little round blocks, they appear to be sunken into the hull.

Villain · « **Reply #12 on:** March 01, 2009, 08:41:08 AM »

I am looking, and I don't see it. I'm gonna assume it's my resolution being high and the image not, because it just looks like it's rescaled the image and distorted everything.

Shino Tenshi · « **Reply #13 on:** March 01, 2009, 08:55:38 AM »

Must be you.
You can clearly see the bumps at the windows and those little grey squares (just above teh reg).
But tbh, the reg should never be bumped.

Dalek · « **Reply #14 on:** March 01, 2009, 09:02:01 AM »

I know, I was just screwing around with bumps at the time

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Nebula · « **Reply #15 on:** March 01, 2009, 10:28:09 AM »

heh I see it.

Furyofaseraph · « **Reply #16 on:** March 01, 2009, 12:18:10 PM »

but thats just a texture effect, isnt it? not a real effect that responds to lighting. right?

Dalek · « **Reply #17 on:** March 01, 2009, 12:23:48 PM »

This is the only way for bumps. You're probably thinking about speculars FoaS. Speculars respond to lgihting and its bloody cool when it works

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Shino Tenshi · « **Reply #18 on:** March 01, 2009, 12:58:17 PM »

Normal bumps also respond to lighting (Legacy) but not in BC as the engine is too old and thus isn't supporting bump/normal-maps.

Furyofaseraph · « **Reply #19 on:** March 01, 2009, 01:27:08 PM »

Quote from: Dalekanium2 on March 01, 2009, 12:23:48 PM

This is the only way for bumps. You're probably thinking about speculars FoaS. Speculars respond to lgihting and its bloody cool when it works !

no, I'm thinking of bump maps or normal maps, which respond to lighting too. What I mean is that if you have a light on the left part of the ship, will your bump-techinque respond to the light being on the left? or are you basically "baking" the bump map into the diffuse as a bevel.

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Author Topic: Considering bump maps...supported in BC? (Read 7537 times)