Author Topic: The Precise Defiant (Read 10240 times)

Saquist · « **Reply #100 on:** December 13, 2012, 06:27:55 AM »

I've had the rear done for a while but as soon as I finished it I knew it wasn't right.
It's of course based on the previously made front view and side view and I don't think this is the right proportions of the engine to the ship and of course I based these drawings off of David's plans for the other views.

Blue: The Finished Version 1 Defiant Rear View
Red is a trace Drawing from a photo
Green is David Schmidt's

You can a difference in the profile of the engines. The body is a bit more angular

I then did a photomatch from a separate picture (than the ones you see above) in sketchup and made this version of the nacelles which look really good but aren't perfect.
For instance the angle seems slightly off as well as the shape. Nor does it perfectly fit the look from both front and back.
At this point I'm just using sketchup to visualize what I'm doing in 2D in 3D to see if at least the proportions are right which I think right now says they aren't.
I may go back to sketchup again with a big all or nothing view by view attempt at the ship since I know the top view is down right.

I may be looking to do a photomatch upwards of 5 different photos in the same drawing just to pin down these problems.
I really expected to much closer to done by this point because of David Schmidt's plans but if I'm going to be accurate I have to be sure.

Saquist · « **Reply #101 on:** December 20, 2012, 12:48:38 AM »

There are a few odds and loose ends but this is essentially done.
Views of the interior are limited.

CyAn1d3 · « **Reply #102 on:** December 25, 2012, 04:40:43 PM »

:eek :drool:

Saquist · « **Reply #103 on:** January 09, 2013, 10:12:41 AM »

Tobias Richter has made his first pass at Defiant today. I'm giving him my reference materials in hopes that he can made a 3D model just as accurate faster than I can. I'm adding his progress here.

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/showthread.php?79742-USS-Defiant

Saquist · « **Reply #104 on:** January 10, 2013, 09:44:20 AM »

Well Farshot it while Tobias's Defiant' is high poly it's not quite precise but I'm not going to nitpick his work on his thread. He's an extremely fast worker so many won't notice the errors at all.

His bridge area is still completely flat. I noticed that you did chamfer yours appropriately.

FarShot · « **Reply #105 on:** January 10, 2013, 10:16:10 AM »

At the very least send him a PM saying the front ends of the nacelles aren't perfectly flat.

Nebula · « **Reply #106 on:** January 10, 2013, 10:19:26 AM »

well aren't we a rough bunch of nitpickers... XD j/k

Saquist · « **Reply #107 on:** January 10, 2013, 11:18:56 AM »

Shucks I know I am.
I see what you mean Farshot...I'm going to ask him about that.

Saquist · « **Reply #108 on:** January 14, 2013, 08:41:21 AM »

He's still missing some detail under the Nose in the cavity along the side walls but this is truly epic piece of work.
He did correct the nacelles Farshot had noticed.

FarShot · « **Reply #109 on:** January 17, 2013, 07:26:21 PM »

It occured to me that Tobias Richter is using the First Contact Defiant for reference. Look at the bridge deck area.

FarShot · « **Reply #110 on:** January 19, 2013, 12:45:44 AM »

And if you're curious, it looks like the Defiant MSD and DS9TM depictions were based off of a single photo taken from the side of the studio model. Those two alongside a perspective side render match very well.

Saquist · « **Reply #111 on:** January 19, 2013, 02:14:50 PM »

I think you're right!

But wait a minute!
So my side view of the underside of Defiant' front nacelle is wrong? It doesn't go straight down from the cowling but sweeps back somehow?!

FarShot · « **Reply #112 on:** January 19, 2013, 06:33:11 PM »

No, it goes straight down. It looks like it sweeps back because of perspective. I'm just saying the MSD and side view aren't necessarily wrong.

Saquist · « **Reply #113 on:** January 23, 2013, 07:13:05 PM »

Yeah I understood what you meant later.

More pics from Tobias Richters completed model.

Eloi · « **Reply #114 on:** January 23, 2013, 10:34:43 PM »

That's a beauty!

Saquist · « **Reply #115 on:** January 25, 2013, 09:54:55 PM »

I speaking with a CAD associate of mine and he looked at Farshot's and Tobias' Defiant and noted that his Defiant is too fat and I started looking at some differences and I think he's wrong.

FarShot · « **Reply #116 on:** January 25, 2013, 11:21:17 PM »

The his and he's are fairly ambiguous in that sentence.

Saquist · « **Reply #117 on:** January 26, 2013, 05:01:39 AM »

Sorry....That would be his Defiant (Tobia's model) looks on the fat side. I knew there was something more wrong with it besides minor detail.

FarShot · « **Reply #118 on:** February 01, 2013, 12:47:33 PM »

This shot of the mirror Defiant shows something interesting.

It closely matches my proposed airlock for the Defiant.

ACES_HIGH · « **Reply #119 on:** February 02, 2013, 02:09:54 AM »

I can't help but notice though that you can clearly see the rim of the DS9 airlock hatch in that shot, they didn't bother to actually connect the ship to the airlock. If you look carefully, the ship isn't even lined up straight with the docking bay. personally, I prefer the canon four deck interpretation.

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