Star Trek Into Darkness - Images, Videos, Discussion, etc

[captain_obvious]

I think this Might be it.

[Shadowknight1]

Why does Paramount keep taking them down?!?  If they don't want us watching them on YouTube, they should use a better frickin video format!  Quicktime sucks, and when it says "Download", what it really means is open it up in your actual Quicktime player which won't let you save unless you have Pro...

[captain_obvious]

Erm, the one I posted isn't quicktime. In fact I don't even have QT installed and haven't had it in quite a while.

[Darran]

I just had to

[Nebula]

Erm, the one I posted isn't quicktime. In fact I don't even have QT installed and haven't had it in quite a while.

depends on what player you have your browser use.

[Shadowknight1]

I just had to

   Why is it so difficult to believe that this guy isn't Khan?

[Darkthunder]

I honestly don't think it's Khan. Never thought it was, especially considering that he would still be floating around inside the Botany Bay, waiting to be discovered by Kirk and crew. It may well be that "John Harrison" is the actual villain name, and it would be nice with some new original villains instead of rehashing old ones.

That doesn't ignore the fact that we have yet to hear about Peter Weller's character

[086gf]

So, I saw the first nine minutes and now May 17th feels soo far away lol. The 3d was the best i've seen outside of The Hobbit itself. BC's British accent is very much not there in the trailers but in his two short lines in the first scene he isn't holding back. His hair is much more like what we see in the Klingon scene and not short like in the brig scene. His outfit was pretty civilian looking(of what little could be seen) too. The reveal of the Enterprise was pretty cool. The shuttle used in the volcano scene is the more tos looking type and not the Argo looking one from the space jump scene in the first movie.

As for the new trailer I think its a safe bet that that is Harrison's ship attacking SFHQ and the one that Spock jumps off of. The small ship that the ?proto-bop? is chasing around Qo'nos is not the same ship. Maybe that one gets damaged and he has to switch ships? And I think those tubes in that room/bay are cryo tubes. That very well could be his "family" that he refers too. Then again that could be the end of the movie where a different group of outcast supermen from Kahn's time are being stored. And im pretty sure he is saying that to Noel Clark's character(former Starfleet from the looks of it) and not to Kirk. The "You think you're safe?" speech could be to just Kirk or it could be a global broadcast to the people of Earth.

This is how I see it. He is not Kahn but a new villain that may have been inspired by him and the Eugenics Wars. As mentioned he appears fairly civilian at the beginning of the movie. But sometime during the first half of the movie he is a member of the Enterprise crew officially or otherwise(S31/stolen ID/super sneaky sneaky). They drop him off at some prison where he esacpes sometime later. He steals the ship that would become his for the rest of the movie and makes his way to Qo'nos somehow knowing that that is where Kirk and company would end up at. Actually I think that other small ship that is getting chased by the Klingons is what Kirk and them are using for this mission...whatever mission would have them fighting Klingons on their homeplanet in very much not Starfleet outfits. They do seem to be surprised afterall when Cumberbatch shows up out of the blue in the middle of the skirmish.

Petter Weller is Matt Decker. That would be my guess. Thats all i've got for now.

[Darran]

  Why is it so difficult to believe that this guy isn't Khan?

I don't believe he's khan, it's just with all the net speculation and that specific image I couldn't resist.

my thoughts:

after the Kelvin incident, Starfleet went into "oh sh*t" mode and genetically altered a  battalion of officers incase the Narada should ever return, then as things simmered down, starfleet black ops realised the error and danger in what they had done and put them on ice..... until now

[Shadowknight1]

I am so sick of people automatically "knowing without question" that it's the Enterprise crashing in the water at the ends of these trailers.  Especially when there was such a big deal made out of how the engines of the new Enterprise are closer together, while the ship crashing has nacelles that are very widely spaced.

And here's my thought.  Maybe the cryotubes are terminal patients?

[FarShot]

My guess is it's Peter Weller's ship.

[Shadowknight1]

Very likely.

[Tuskin38]

I was watching a IGN rewind og The new trailer and they pointed something out I had not noticed, there were shots of what looked like Cryo tubes (windows had ice or moisture on them), plus a big man with possibly a ponytail, about :55 to a minute in, after the shot of the jets and the folding of the UFP flag.

Edit:

This shot here

http://scifanatic.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/stid-t2-18.jpg

[Shadowknight1]

Still not taking that as confirmation that John Harrison is actually Khan.  Or that Khan is even involved.  Cryogenic freezing has been seen in Trek outside of the Botany Bay.

[Tuskin38]

I don't think that John is Khan either.

If Khan is in the film, he'll have a very small role, guiding the events that are happening

My theory is John found Khan and the Botany Bay instead of Kirk, and he agrees with Khan's ideals and is working with him (or for him).

Also remember John is starfleet, he could get into places, do things that Khan would not be able too.

John also appears to have super strength, fighting off many Klingons at once according to the trailer, so he maybe some sort of Khan analogue, based on a canon character, but not that character exactly.

[086gf]

My guess is it's Peter Weller's ship.

That would be my guess too.

The official synapsis has been revamped. John Harrison is not working alone. If I had to take a guess it would be Weller who is truely pulling the strings(Harrison's atleast). Possibly under the banner of Section 31. That would be somewhat of an unexpected connection to late 24th century Trek.

[Tuskin38]

and 22nd Century Trek.

Section 31 was in a couple episodes of Season 4 Enterprise.

[Tuskin38]

JJ Abrams was approached for the new Star Wars trilogy, he declined "There were the very early conversations and I quickly said that because of my loyalty to Star Trek, and also just being a fan, I wouldn't even want to be involved in the next version of those things. I declined any involvement very early on. I'd rather be in the audience not knowing what was coming, rather than being involved in the minutiae of making them."

[Shadowknight1]

Honestly, I can't blame him.  I would be intimidated enough by the Trekkies, but the Star Wars fans can get absurdly crazy when it comes to the canon.  I'd stay the hell away from being the next George Lucas.

[Tuskin38]

http://trekmovie.com/2012/12/28/fan-granted-dying-wish-for-early-screening-of-star-trek-into-darkness/

This tugs the heart strings