Somewhat related. Orci had apparently talked to CBS, and CBS flat out told him that they have no interest in bringing Star Trek back to TV.
Well shit. THAT is what's destroying the franchise. Imo trek would work much better as a miniseries rather than trying to cram all that story into a film.
Honestly, and no offense to you guys cause I've yet to see true fanboy bitching on this forum, I'm starting to really hate identifying myself as a Star Trek fan. It seems the lot of them can't stand to see their franchise being "destroyed" when...really, it's gone back to its roots.
Going back to the roots is something, but that doesn't automatically make it a good film or even a good idea.
I've never liked identifying myself as a trek fan. Hell, only my very closest friends know that I am into trek. Not even my family know.
Know why? Because it's nerdish and around these parts, being a nerd is equated with being intelligent and intelligence is equated with being a snobby middle class thing and inherently right wing. I've heard people around here say "Oh they like trek? What? They think they're better than us?!". Okay, they don't actually say that as they're often in possession of unintelligible accents and have poor vocabulary, but you get the idea.
It's fun, actiony, and does have underlying themes, unlike Next Gen, the TMP era movies, and so on that were slow paced and overly philosophic at times.
and FC wasn't fun or actiony? FC certainly wasn't slow paced either. The only two trek films I would argue are slow paced are TMP and insurrection. Even that train wreck TFF wasn't slowly paced.
Do I think the JJ films are perfect? Hell no. I'm sick of Earth. Go EXPLORE STRANGE NEW WORLDS.
I agree. Kirk needs to be told that there are plenty more alien women out there!
And let the Enterprise be bad-ass. She's not the Millennium Falcon where we expect the ship to take a pummeling.
Nah. I'm quite happy seeing that ugly boat being smashed to pieces. The only way it could get uglier and stay a fed ship is if they replaced it with the oddysey class from sto!
But that being said, I do enjoy them, and I certainly wouldn't put them in the bottom of the list if I were to rank the films. They'd be right up there with TWOK and FC. Insurrection, TFF, and TMP are at the bottom.
I wouldn't place the jj films right at the bottom, but they would definitely be very low down.
IMO, TMP is underrated. It's almost as if it's become politically correct and fashionable to unduly slate that film. Certainly it's slow paced and not as involving as it should have been, but it's much better put together than people give it credit for. You sure as hell can't compare TMP and either of the JJ films though. Apples and oranges. Both films are entirely different beasts. TMP is more in the vein of the artsy and ambitious 2001 while the JJ films are following the beaten path of present day hollywood filmmaking.
Well crap, I'm going to have to rewatch TMP now! Again.
