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Recreational Forums => Other Sci-Fi Discussion => Topic started by: Shadowknight1 on October 30, 2012, 04:32:54 PM
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I am NOT kidding. (http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/10/30/the-walt-disney-company-acquires-lucasfilm-star-wars-episode-vii-set-for-2015?abthid=509034fe01d81ea67800008c)
I had to check the date several times to confirm to myself that it wasn't April 1st. I am really torn on this. Really, really torn. This could be really good. This could be really horrible and a sign of the end-times. I am just not sure.
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From what I can tell: everyone has exactly the same thought of now knowing what to think about this situation.
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It's gonna be Pirates of the Star Wars. xD
I don't know, to be honest, I'm fed up of Star Wars. Loved it as a kid, could still watch the originals now, but the prequels have grown to be unbearable.
It just seems more of a cash cow now. That said, I love the animated Clone Wars show and the recent comics depicting the origin of the Jedi. TOR is good too.
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I just realised that Disney owns Marvel. And Disney have Joss Whedon as a consultant for Avengers stuff.
They should get him to help with Star Wars in some way.
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It's gonna be Pirates of the Star Wars. xD
I don't know, to be honest, I'm fed up of Star Wars. Loved it as a kid, could still watch the originals now, but the prequels have grown to be unbearable.
It just seems more of a cash cow now. That said, I love the animated Clone Wars show and the recent comics depicting the origin of the Jedi. TOR is good too.
Well, Clone Wars is probably gonna be shifting to Disney Channel. Can't afford to have a product of one of their subsidiaries on a subsidiary station of one of their big competitors.
And yes Cube, Joss should come in on Star Wars. He'd make it the way it should be.
Also this:
(http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/118/1187420/star-wars-vs-marvel-20110818102836995-000.jpg)
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F**K. that means they own ILM now.... well forget my "childhood" dream of ever working there :/
i hate what disney has become, but i myself, like many others are torn by this one... but well see in 2 years...
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Congratulations, George. Everyone always thought you were a money-grubbing sellout. This just proves it.
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Posted this on my Facebook page:
(http://s10.postimage.org/ak4df2ztx/Disney_Star_Wars.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ak4df2ztx/)
As well as a suggested list of new cast members:
Luke Skywalker --- Mickey Mouse
Leia Organa --- Minnie Mouse
Han Solo --- Baloo
Chewbacca --- Kit Cloudkicker
Lando Calrissian --- Cobra Bubbles
R2-D2 --- Chip
C3PO --- Dale
Darth Vader --- Goofy
Emperor Palpatine --- Scrooge McDuck
Grand Moff Tarkin --- Donald Duck
Jango / Boba Fett --- Jafar
Jabba the Hutt --- Ursula
Obi-Wan Kenobi --- Mufasa
Yoda --- Jiminy Cricket
and finally ...
Ewoks --- Rescuers Down Under Mice
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Just having a bit of fun at the news. I don't see it as the big "doom and gloom" that many others do. Under Lucas' leadership, he was running Star Wars into the ground anyways. Always tinkering with the original movies, as well as the "travesty" that is the new trilogy.
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:picardfacepalm:
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F**K. that means they own ILM now.... well forget my "childhood" dream of ever working there :/
I think the ILM part will be left alone by Disney so they can carry on operating how they are - kind of like how Touchstone Pictures is still functions seperately to Disney. Touchstone even to a lot (if not most) of their work with DreamWorks.
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Posted this on my Facebook page:
(http://s10.postimage.org/ak4df2ztx/Disney_Star_Wars.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ak4df2ztx/)
As well as a suggested list of new cast members:
Luke Skywalker --- Mickey Mouse
Leia Organa --- Minnie Mouse
Han Solo --- Baloo
Chewbacca --- Kit Cloudkicker
Lando Calrissian --- Cobra Bubbles
R2-D2 --- Chip
C3PO --- Dale
Darth Vader --- Goofy
Emperor Palpatine --- Scrooge McDuck
Grand Moff Tarkin --- Donald Duck
Jango / Boba Fett --- Jafar
Jabba the Hutt --- Ursula
Obi-Wan Kenobi --- Mufasa
Yoda --- Jiminy Cricket
and finally ...
Ewoks --- Rescuers Down Under Mice
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Just having a bit of fun at the news. I don't see it as the big "doom and gloom" that many others do. Under Lucas' leadership, he was running Star Wars into the ground anyways. Always tinkering with the original movies, as well as the "travesty" that is the new trilogy.
Ok, uhm only problem is, Isn't James Earl Jones the voice of Mufasa AND Darth Vader??? :P :hide
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At first I read this story and a giant knot welled up in my throat... I
wanted to cry. A fan since the beginning and know it's come to this.
However... considering the current state star wars is in, maybe this is a
good thing. I've seen The Avengers and what Disney has allowed for
Marvel, so I'll sit back with my comforting cup of Tea and let this
pass. I will wait, like all of us.
And when the movie does come out, I will judge then. could it be
terrible? Maybe. But could it not also be great?
Everyone have a good one.
^ This.
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Im cautiously optimistic. If they can retain the spirit of the original Star Wars movies as they were able to do with Tron Legacy, then I'm all for it.
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ILM works for so many different companies in the movie industry that if Disney tried to keep ILM from working for anyone but them, then Disney would probably get in trouble for being a monopoly.
What makes me really sad is that in any new Star Wars movies we won't see the 20th Century Fox logo preceding it, nor the transitions from the Paramount mountain in future Indiana Jones movies.
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Im cautiously optimistic. If they can retain the spirit of the original Star Wars movies as they were able to do with Tron Legacy, then I'm all for it.
:yeahthat:
also, what can possible go wrong ? I mean, anything will be better than Phantom Menace or Attack of the Clones :P
and I do hope George as from now on will have nothing to do with ANYTHING that's SW
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:yeahthat:
also, what can possible go wrong ? I mean, anything will be better than Phantom Menace or Attack of the Clones :P
and I do hope George as from now on will have nothing to do with ANYTHING that's SW
He has the role of creative consultant so that's it, he has no way of deciding what the story is or how it develops. So it should be all right, Disney has the money and Hollywood clout to get the talent. It should be a good run if they they get the story writers in. NO Damon Lindelof! I would like to have a complete story when I go to see it at the cinema, particularly after the haphazard writing that was Prometheus. It took a few months wait and the Blu ray edition to sort some of the inconsistencies. Though that would be unfair on Damon the editors are also to blame. Aliens was never a thinking mans film just a thrill ride. If I wanted to think about life i'd go watch The Motion Picture.
I digress, sorry. :(
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Amazingly, George Lucas will NOT be hanging onto this $4 billion that he received from this deal. Most of it will be going to charities. Good on you, Mr. Lucas.
Also, this comic sums up my feelings about this deal upon further reflection.
(http://www.reallifecomics.com/comics/2012/20121031_2936.jpg)
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This can only be a good thing, I can't wait to see what they do. There is sooo much post RotJ material out there. Never read any of it just random browsings on wookiepedia.
Luke and Mara Jade rebuilding the Jedi Order.
The next generation of Solos and Skywalkers becoming Jedi.
The Vong War and the Lusankya.
Jacen Solo turning into Darth Cadaece(sp?).
Me vote would be for the Vong War.
Also this:
(http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/118/1187420/star-wars-vs-marvel-20110818102836995-000.jpg)
Fun fact From 1977 to 1986 the Star Wars comics were published by Marvel.
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My wish is Han Solo Trilogy or Thrawn Trilogy, of course neither of these could use original saga cast due to age but there would be plenty of sapce for young stars in Han Solo Trilogy (personally it's my favourite SW book with Thrawn history to be close second)
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No preexisting canon will be used - it is an "entirely original" trilogy.
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I think of it this way. No matter how crappy it turns out, it can't be as bad as Jar Jar Binks. (http://sguforums.com/Smileys/TLVsmilies/vomit.gif)
So too me the new trilogy can only be a good thing.
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I think of it this way. No matter how crappy it turns out, it can't be as bad as Jar Jar Binks. (http://sguforums.com/Smileys/TLVsmilies/vomit.gif)
So too me the new trilogy can only be a good thing.
Star Wars Episode VII: Return of the Binks.
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I'm not really sure how this will turn out, the only way I would remotely support more Star Wars movies is if they included the original cast members. Anyway, not gonna judge and be all dramatic until I see the finished product, we may all be surprised. :dontcare:
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.....I would remotely support more Star Wars movies is if they included the original cast members.
i could JUST see Carrie Fishers mentally lost self stumbling about a set now... :funny
IIRC from the commentary, Seth Macfarlane had to SERIOUSLY coax her into doing the third Star Wars spoof. she wants nothing to do with it.
plus i think Hamills totally retired... he stopped doing the joker FFS
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/11/01/mark-hamill-talks-star-wars-episode-vii
Time will tell I suppose, after all William Shatner was 60 and Deforest Kelley was 71 when they did ST 6.
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i could JUST see Carrie Fishers mentally lost self stumbling about a set now... :funny
IIRC from the commentary, Seth Macfarlane had to SERIOUSLY coax her into doing the third Star Wars spoof. she wants nothing to do with it.
plus i think Hamills totally retired... he stopped doing the joker FFS
I doubt Fisher would come back. I don't think she hates the franchise, but I don't think she'd be up for it.
And Mark Hamill is NOT retired. Not in the slightest. He's doing a ton of voice-over work. He just said that Arkham City was his last go-round as Joker(which is what Nimoy said about Spock back in Star Trek VI and we all know how that went).
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I really don't know what to think on this one... really don't know :doh:
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I will wait until it's on TV in about 6-7 years. Then I'll watch it and determine whether I should be glad I didn't spend money on it.
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Why are people so negative? Disney bought Marvel a few years back, and that turned out pretty okay (The Avengers made over 1.5 billion dollars at the box office). I remember similar negativity in regards to JJ Abrams being handed over the reigns to running Star Trek.
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Why are people so negative? Disney bought Marvel a few years back, and that turned out pretty okay (The Avengers made over 1.5 billion dollars at the box office). I remember similar negativity in regards to JJ Abrams being handed over the reigns to running Star Trek.
indeed... looking back at how quickly ST been sinking before JJ revived the franchise with fresh aesthetics and even better approach to ST, Disney's SW might be similiar rebirth of SW franchise
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No preexisting canon will be used - it is an "entirely original" trilogy.
They can still use elements that already exist. It would be awesome is Kyle Katarn made an appearance, even if he was just at the new Jedi temple or something like that.
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I think it'll be set more like a hundred years fore or aft of the six. If they set it within two dozen years of either side, they'd just be stepping toes on all of the EU stuff out there, and then tons of royalties and such would have to be handled regarding all of the authors. It's just a legal crapstorm and it also limits the scriptwriters, concept artists, and casting way too much.
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Or they could just do what Trek does, and completely disregard everything that's not the movies or the series. Close to NOTHING from Trek novels - not even the novelizations of the movies - is considered canon, nor is anything from video games. Likely because, more often than not, those things conflict. We've had several books that have featured Vulcan, and they're all drastically different both from not only the canon, but from each other, too. The major difference between Star Wars' EU and Star Trek's is that Star Wars' is a lot more structured, so that there ISN'T constant retconning or multiple variations of stories in the same time frame. Granted, the release of the prequel trilogy kinda messed things up a bit, but nonetheless.
The trouble with "dumping the EU", though, is the fact that, without it, there would frankly be no Star Wars fandom, as the best stories and characters have been EU creations - or original movie characters with expanded stories in the EU (i.e. Han Solo). If there IS to be a new trilogy, despite what they've said, they HAVE to take the EU into account, or there will be fan outrage the likes of which have not been seen before...and frankly, Lucas would not be this rich snob he is now if it weren't for the millions of loyal fans (including the many thousands of complete zealous fanatics...i.e. the ones who go in costume).
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I agree with FarShot, they should set it way in the future, or just ignore EU.
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And as usual with Disney ep7-9(again will be post ep6) are just the beginning.
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I love some of Yahoo's ideas for directors for the next Star Wars. Two of them would be awesome but utterly impossible. One was Joss Whedon, and he'll be neck deep in The Avengers 2. The other was J.J. Abrams. I am not sure exactly HOW impossible that would be, but I think working on Star Trek probably precludes the possibility.
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Matthew Vaughn rumoured for director's chair of Episode VII (also Harrison Ford interested in revisiting Han Solo character):
http://www.imdb.com/news/ni40077542/
Matthew Vaughn is primarily known for directing Kick-Ass, and X-Men: First Class.
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Kyle Katarn. Enough said.
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(http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/730195/82898187.jpg)
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BWAHAHAHA! :thumbsup:
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oh dear god.... i love now how people are calling leia a "disney princess" :facepalm:
..... sad part is... its f*cking true.....
i SWEAR TO GOD, if disney decides to market leia like they do with the rest of that group of characters i will vomit my soul.
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Here?s a Leaked Scene from the New Star Wars Movie (http://jezebel.com/5958937/heres-a-leaked-scene-from-the-new-star-wars-movie)
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New it was bogus when I clicked the link, but I'll give credit where it's due. Dressing a pug up like a bantha isn't that hard a sell, and it was actually quite cute.
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LMAO I can't believe Kristen and Art made that video. I'm gonna have to give them thumbs up XD
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-20288810 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-20288810)
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Well maybe they could do the rise of the new empire that was mentioned in that one series that took place like a hundred or so years after the latest in EU content happened. As far as I know, the books haven't made it that far yet.
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Well maybe they could do the rise of the new empire that was mentioned in that one series that took place like a hundred or so years after the latest in EU content happened. As far as I know, the books haven't made it that far yet.
Except Han and Luke are dead by that point in history, and it'd be a little hard for Harrison Ford or Mark Hamill to reprise their roles if their characters have croaked. Well, actually, Hamill could get away with it. Jedi. Force ghost. (They used it in the comics set in that period.) And both are believed to be going for it.
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Except Han and Luke are dead by that point in history, and it'd be a little hard for Harrison Ford or Mark Hamill to reprise their roles if their characters have croaked. Well, actually, Hamill could get away with it. Jedi. Force ghost. (They used it in the comics set in that period.) And both are believed to be going for it.
I'm not talking about the stories of cade skywalker, I'm talking long before that, in the period where that Fel dude (aparently the husband of Han's daughter) Started his assent of power in the imperial reminent, reforming it into a more benevolent empire that started to compete and eventually overcome the new republic. Cade's story takes place a hundred years after the foundation of this new empire; I'd like to see how it formed and how it somehow won over a galaxy.
And yes, I realize I know far too much about the star wars universe than any trekkie should ever know, so I'll end my post with one of these :SWvST:
Edit: got my skywalkers mixed up, thanks Joshmaul for correcting me.
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Uh, Ben Skywalker is Luke and Mara's kid. You're thinking Cade Skywalker, their junkie-turned-Jedi descendant. (I read Wookiepedia like I read Wikipedia - like an addict.)
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whoops, my bad. Anyway, yeah I was talking about Cade, and from what I understand in my skimming of wookiepedia, this new empire formed around the time the EU books seem to be right now, and unless my information is dated and they killed off another main character, Han, Luke, and Leia are still alive. Granted I'm not sure if someone already covered how this new empire formed, or even if it would make for an interesting story. Again this is all just speculation and wishful thinking.
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Gonna be honest...I don't give a flying flip if the movies eradicate the expanded universe entirely. The only good things to come out of it post-Return of the Jedi were the Thrawn trilogy and the Hand of Thrawn duology. Everything else was mediocre, and then when the Yuuzhan Vong showed up, the entire thing went to crap.
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Gonna be honest...I don't give a flying flip if the movies eradicate the expanded universe entirely. The only good things to come out of it post-Return of the Jedi were the Thrawn trilogy and the Hand of Thrawn duology. Everything else was mediocre, and then when the Yuuzhan Vong showed up, the entire thing went to crap.
Much as I'm inclined to agree...there's still better writers in that mix than Lucas, heh.
Speaking of: May God have mercy on our souls...
http://www.themarysue.com/george-lucas-sw7-script/
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Well on the bright side, at least Rifftrax will have another star wars movie to make fun of. (ok, that really doesn't change anything since I will watch it with Rifftrax regardless of whether it's good or bad)
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Need I point out that even though he didn't direct, Lucas still had a hand in both Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi? Frankly, a good director can do a lot with a not-so-good script. Honestly, the only things we know is that it's being written by the guy that wrote Toy Story 3, and Kathleen Kennedy will be producer with Lucas as "creative consultant". We know nothing about the story, the cast, the music, or the director.
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Well if we knew the story, we won't be surprised, as we should
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Well if we knew the story, we won't be surprised, as we should
Tell that to everyone complaining about Star Trek Into Darkness. :P
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Unfortunality , they Never listen :eek
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Well it seems that they will be ignoring all of the post-RotJ literature/EU for the new trilogy. Sooo.......just throw all of the Thrawn/Vong War/holographic Darth Maul haunting Luke Skywalker stuff away. Yep.
Also, Kennedy wants Lucasfilm to pump out 2-3 movies per year. Pixar created (Ko)ToR anyone? Not in the same style as the current Clone Wars series ofcourse but something a bit more serious overall.
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I wouldn't mind something in this vein:
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I'd love to see Peter Jackson tackle the next Star Wars trilogy, I think he'd do a great job.
One of the reasons that the OT was so good was that Empire and Jedi weren't directed by George, that's the same reason the Clone Wars is so good, he has very little input. For that reason, I think that the next trilogy can be really great.
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Ugh, my YouTube link didn't work...it was a link to one of the trailers for The Old Republic, the nice cinematic ones.
Actually, you'd probably be surprised with how much input Lucas HAS with the Clone Wars. I'll be honest, the show was rather slow to start. It was decent at first. But the thing is, each season GOT BETTER.
As for Peter Jackson...no thanks. I have no intention of sitting through a three hour Star Wars movie that's split into two parts. I allow it for Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit because those stories have so much to say.
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As for Peter Jackson...no thanks. I have no intention of sitting through a three hour Star Wars movie that's split into two parts. I allow it for Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit because those stories have so much to say.
My mother disagrees; she's wondering what the hell's up with making "The Hobbit" three movies, and thinks that perhaps Sir Pete is trying to squeeze every penny out of the box office he can. I think it could easily have been told in two.
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Meh. I disagree because I see perfect points where these movies can be broken up. Movie 1 ends with the escape from the wargs with the help of the eagles, Movie 2 ends with either the escape in the barrels and the arrival in Laketown or with them making it to the Lonely Mountain. And that's if movie 2 doesn't end with Gandalf learning of the dwarves' capture and finishing his "business" at Dol Guldur.
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The way I understand it, the third movie will be extra stuff, perhaps what Aragorn and Gandalf do in the 60 year interim.
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I don't think all of the third movie is extra stuff, that's going to be weaved in. There's plenty from the appendices that can be used.
As for Star Wars, I think there's plenty of story there to be split into two movies. Heck, Lucas made six movies out of just one story. Lucas may have more input than I'm aware of, but what I meant was that he let's others sit in the drivers seat. He should have done that with the prequels.
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OMG guys! GUYS. THERE. IS. HOPE. Lawrence Kasdan(writer for both Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi) and Simon Kinberg(writer for X-Men: First Class) are going to be writing/producing Episodes VIII and IX. No word on who gets which episode or if they'll both do them, but THIS MEANS THERE IS ACTUAL TALENT INVOLVED!!! Source (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-lawrence-kasdan-simon-393459)
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Here's looking forward to 2017 and 2019 respectively then... That is, unless the World is destroyed next month :)
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*whistles*
(http://cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com/112220120837116.jpg)
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Why are people so negative? Disney bought Marvel a few years back, and that turned out pretty okay (The Avengers made over 1.5 billion dollars at the box office). I remember similar negativity in regards to JJ Abrams being handed over the reigns to running Star Trek.
well to be honest I think JJ sunk the Star Trek Franchise and turned it into a generic sci-fi action movie with no plot, no morales, and no overall values besides more lense flare. But a new Star Wars movie could be cool, at least it might be better than Episode 1 so long as they keep Johnny Deep away from it
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well to be honest I think JJ sunk the Star Trek Franchise and turned it into a generic sci-fi action movie with no plot, no morales, and no overall values besides more lense flare. But a new Star Wars movie could be cool, at least it might be better than Episode 1 so long as they keep Johnny Deep away from it
Your "opinion", and frankly I think it's absolutely wrong. It had a lot more to it than the Star Wars prequel films all together.
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Your "opinion", and frankly I think it's absolutely wrong. It had a lot more to it than the Star Wars prequel films all together.
ur viewpoint as well but i wont be seeing his latest pile of trash. star trek as far as real actors died in 2005 after enterprise. all any of us have now is books to keep gene's dream alive
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Honestly, I am so sick of people claiming to be Trek fans talking about "Gene's dream". I'm sorry. Look at freaking Zefram Cochrane in First Contact. That's Gene. He made Star Trek in order to make MONEY. It just happens that he did something fantastic. And I don't see what's so anti-Star Trek about the 2009 film. Star Trek's strength lies in a group of people who normally wouldn't work together actually overcoming their differences to come together as a family to overcome any adversity.
I mean this in no offense to you candle_86. You're far from the only one I've heard this line of thinking from. I will say...honestly, I think you could be a little more civil about it. Frankly, J.J. Abrams is THE classiest director in Hollywood IMO, especially after his recent actions with the late fan whose last wish was to see Star Trek Into Darkness. To bring it back on topic, I cannot imagine George Lucas or anyone from Disney fulfilling that kind of wish.
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I gotta agree with Shadowknight here. People who claim to "defend Gene's dream", seem to selectively pick-and-choose what parts of "Gene's dream" they want to defend. I suppose under their argument, anything made up until 2005 is part of "Gene's dream", whereas 2009+ is "something else".
Prior to the 2009 movie, Trek was effectively dead for all intents and purposes. Braga and Berman made sure of that with ENTERPRISE. The last feature film was 2002 and it sucked (non-Trek director, no respect for Trek or it's actors etc). ENTERPRISE wasn't "bad", but it didn't live up to it's promise of exploring the universe during the early days of the Federation. Instead, it ended up bringing in several classic villains such as the Borg, the Ferengi and ofcoruse, the Klingons. It was only during Season 4 where the show showed some hope of trying to merge with the TOS that we all know and love. By then, it was unfortunately too late.
Candle_86, I urge you and all the "nay-sayers" to heed the words of Admiral/Captain James Tiberius Kirk;
"Fresh minds, fresh ideas, be tolerant."
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I gotta agree with Shadowknight here. People who claim to "defend Gene's dream", seem to selectively pick-and-choose what parts of "Gene's dream" they want to defend. I suppose under their argument, anything made up until 2005 is part of "Gene's dream", whereas 2009+ is "something else".
Prior to the 2009 movie, Trek was effectively dead for all intents and purposes. Braga and Berman made sure of that with ENTERPRISE. The last feature film was 2002 and it sucked (non-Trek director, no respect for Trek or it's actors etc). ENTERPRISE wasn't "bad", but it didn't live up to it's promise of exploring the universe during the early days of the Federation. Instead, it ended up bringing in several classic villains such as the Borg, the Ferengi and ofcoruse, the Klingons. It was only during Season 4 where the show showed some hope of trying to merge with the TOS that we all know and love. By then, it was unfortunately too late.
Candle_86, I urge you and all the "nay-sayers" to heed the words of Admiral/Captain James Tiberius Kirk;
"Fresh minds, fresh ideas, be tolerant."
why should I be tolerant to him or his trailer trash movies? Shortly before his first movie he showed great dislike for our kind, he wanted to make Star Trek for the masses and encouraged the die hards to stay home, going as far as saying this isn't our star trek anymore. So I will not be tolerant, I'm more likly to go to the next sci fi convention hes at and throw fruit at him and if Pine is there at him as well.
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Then you are effectively going against the very ideals of "Star Trek". Very mature stance, from someone claiming to be a defender of "Gene's dream"
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^ Plus (No offence) but this seems to be why he was encouraging you not to go see it...since it would just make you mad?
You could argue that at least he wasn't BS'ing anybody - he didn't set out to stick to Gene's vision and he stood by that and he warned the die-hard fans, "You're not going to like it"
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You know guys, another part of Gene's vision was that people would tolerate and respect each others opinions. Not everyone agreed on everything, but they wouldn't become uncivilized about it. At least in the Federation that is.
And those Starfleet officers never became so inflamed over fictional stuff either.
My way of saying "cool it, gents."
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why should I be tolerant to him or his trailer trash movies? Shortly before his first movie he showed great dislike for our kind, he wanted to make Star Trek for the masses and encouraged the die hards to stay home, going as far as saying this isn't our star trek anymore. So I will not be tolerant, I'm more likly to go to the next sci fi convention hes at and throw fruit at him and if Pine is there at him as well.
Ooooh, so he should be hated for trying to expand the fandom? Face it bud, we are OLD. And growing older every year. Sure some of us might rope our friends or family into the fandom, but that's not a guarantee. And while I personally liked Nemesis(sure better than Insurrection), it did terrible at the box office. That goes to show that the population of Trekkies that will continually go to see these movies is shrinking, and shrinking fast. Without expanding the audience, soon Star Trek would belong to only the stereotypical nerds in their basements, slowly rotting away.
I have seen the 2009 film many times. I have also watched every movie and nearly every episode of the TV shows(was up to Season 3 of Enterprise when I lost my job and had to cancel Netflix). Was JJ's film a thinking man's movie? No, but, and let's be honest here, neither were The Wrath of Khan or First Contact. Both were action/sci-fi and both are considered among the best in the franchise. There are elements of both of those in Abrams' movie.
Is the film perfect? No. It could have used a few more bits in Spock Prime's flashback to show how the supernova that destroyed Romulus wasn't a standard run-of-the-mill supernova. It could've possibly been a bit better explained for the idiots in the audience that Nero was being held at a Klingon prison camp and subsequently escaped.
But is it really any different than some of the more action packed episodes of the original series? I say no. In fact, let's take a quick trip back. Do you remember WHY there were two different pilots of The Original Series? Because network executives felt "The Cage" was too cerebral for the audience. So Roddenberry wrote another pilot, removing the brooding Christopher Pike and replacing him with the younger, cockier, brasher James T.(R.) Kirk. Why did he do this? Why compromise his "vision"? Simple. He wanted to sell his show. He abandoned the cerebral plot-driven pilot and gave Jim Kirk something to shoot at, as well as removing Spock's emotions.
Star Trek 2009 didn't change the characters all that much. Jim Kirk was brash, young, and as of the movie, untempered. Dr. McCoy was irascible and had just went through a divorce. Spock was still struggling with his human half. And so on. The only real change was Chekov's age, and I don't think it's too much of a stretch to think that maybe his parents were aboard the U.S.S. Kelvin and as a result of that close brush with death decided life was too short, got married earlier and had little Pavel a few years earlier. As for Spock/Uhura? The attraction was there in early episodes of the original series, at least on Uhura's side. The fact that, in this timeline, Spock remained as an instructor at the Academy since the Enterprise hadn't been completed yet merely allowed the attraction to actually develop. Sulu? Still a swashbuckling helmsman. Scotty? Still an irrepressible engineer with a sense of humor.
All Abrams did was speed up the action. And as for the "horrible" lens flares...those have been in Star Trek way before Abrams set foot at Paramount. For god's sakes, every torpedo ever fired(except for that crappy blurry torpedo the Klingons fired in STV) was a lens flare. The 2009 film reinvigorated a dying franchise and opened the door for new fans to actually ENJOY Star Trek. And I will say this to you JB2005. Nothing JJ Ever said told me, as a die-hard fan, "You're not going to like this." I saw the movie three times in the theaters. Once I went with my anti-Trek/pro-Wars sister. Another I went with some of my friends. And the third time alone. The third time, there was an older gentleman sitting a few seats away. As the film ended and Giachino's rendition of Courage's grand theme played, he turned to me and said something to this effect: "I've been a Star Trek fan since it first came on television. This is the best Star Trek film I've seen." Does enjoying Star Trek 2009 make me automatically dislike the rest of Star Trek? No. Yes, the films are geared for action. That's what films ARE. That's what they will always be. No one is going to pay upwards of 8 or 10 bucks to sit and watch a 2 hour debate over space travel physics. While I love the movies, I think Star Trek is at its best on TV, where the audience can sit back and relax and breathe. For a movie, it HAS to be a rush, it has to engage your senses, otherwise no one is going to recommend dropping the money to go see it.
That's my rant. A bit long, but hopefully people like candle can see where I'm coming from. Hopefully I haven't been rude or insulting, either. But I will say one last thing in conclusion here, and then we should get back on topic for Star WARS and leave the Trek debate to other parts of the forum. I loved the new movie, and excited for the second, and I'm not the only Star Trek fan who is. So I ask of you naysayers...what makes YOU right, and what makes US wrong?
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didn't farshot just ask you guys to cool it?
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didn't farshot just ask you guys to cool it?
I was in the midst of typing that when FarShot posted. :doh:
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Yeah... okay, time to do a bit of moderating...
1. Wrong thread for this discussion.
2. You're all about four years late.
3. No matter what anyone says, the twelfth movie will come out and will make millions. No point tearing you hair out over it.
Now, can we call it settled? I understand everyone has their opinions, but I believe we've all heard this before, and when you get two opposite opinions butting heads, nothing happens. Except for some hot air getting everyone steamed.
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Aye aye :salute2:
On the subject of Star Wars, there was a rumor that Zack Snyder was going to be making a Star Wars side-story kind of in the vein of The Seven Samurai, but Snyder shot that down fast.
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Oh boy.
http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/star-trek-director-j-j-abrams-talks-call-221511526.html
This could be in interesting.
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First he said ABSOLUTELY NO!!!
Then he said YES!!!
Did someone offer him more money? While I don't mind the "JJ reboot" of Trek as much as most others, i'm not a fan of him rebooting Star Wars ALSO. And the potential for those god-forsaken lens flares everywhere...
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This could be in interesting.
(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z285/Cyanide1700/noooo.jpg)
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It hasn't been confirmed by Abrams or by Disney. I treat this as a rumor.
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Yeah, this is fake he is still saying no.
EDIT: Also since Star Wars:Underworld and Level 1313 share the exact same specifics I guess its fair to say that that is what happened to it. Though the possibility seems to still be there for a live action series. It is Disney afterall.
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it is confirmed...
No Sith! JJ Abrams to direct new 'Star Wars' sequel
(http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/jj-abrams-direct-new-star-wars-sequel-report-article-1.1247134)
:facepalm: :picardfacepalm:
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That's not a confirmation. It's not a press release from Disney/Lucas OR from Abrams. Until then, I'm still taking this with a grain of salt.
However, I will say this. Abrams being in charge of both could be the best thing ever, especially given Abrams' penchant for "real, real, real" in his movies. Might see fewer CGI aliens this time around. Give the makeup department something to do.
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how about this one then?
http://starwars.com/news/star-wars-is-being-kick-started-with-dynamite-jj-abrams-to-direct-star-wars-episode-vii.html (http://starwars.com/news/star-wars-is-being-kick-started-with-dynamite-jj-abrams-to-direct-star-wars-episode-vii.html)
:cry: :banghead:
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That's official enough for me. Here's hoping that JJ will take some of the lessons learned from Trek into Wars. Characters and story should matter more than special effects. And at the very least, Paramount IS holding him to Trek XIII, at least as a producer.
I find it both exciting and frightening to think that one man could be responsible for reinvigorating two of the biggest science fiction franchises of all time. I just hope JJ hasn't bitten off more than he can chew.
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I totally understand the dislike of the overuse of lens-flares in Star Trek, but some kind of big flare when a lightsaber activates seems cool in my imagination.
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Well JJ is a self admitted SW fan, hes more a SW fan then a ST fan.
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Somebody said that they hoped JJ would leave Trek alone after "Into Darkness" and that somebody who actually loves Trek would helm any future movies. I told him, "the people who love Trek are the ones doing the fan films". Only trouble is, fan stuff can't be canon. More's the pity.
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Somebody said that they hoped JJ would leave Trek alone after "Into Darkness" and that somebody who actually loves Trek would helm any future movies. I told him, "the people who love Trek are the ones doing the fan films". Only trouble is, fan stuff can't be canon. More's the pity.
Um...that's the most retarded statement ever considering that both Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman are self affirmed Trekkies and they WRITE THE DAMN THINGS. And if anything, doing the first movie has made JJ a Trek fan. I can't say for the other guys in the "Supreme Court" but I think there's plenty of love for Trek in there.
And frankly, fan films aren't always that good. And the ones that are, are few and far between.
And finally, I think this can only be a good thing. Bring the franchises together, as it were. More so than before, at any rate.
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More big news!
Every important original trilogy character(minus R2, 3PO, Luke, Leia, Kenobi and Vadar for obvious reasons) just might be getting their own origins type movies. Yoda seems to be the first on the list with a Boba Fett movie all but certain aswell as ofcourse Han Solo. Those are the big three going around right now but again everyones on the table. Lucasfilm and Disney apparently want these standalone movies to be released in the same year as each of the sequal trilogy movies.
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Uh....Vader is getting an origin movie? He already HAD an origin movie. Three, in fact.
...except they made Star Wars' ultimate badass originate from a whiny bitch, so maybe this is a retcon, God willing?
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Uh....Vader is getting an origin movie? He already HAD an origin movie. Three, in fact.
...except they made Star Wars' ultimate badass originate from a whiny bitch, so maybe this is a retcon, God willing?
Re-read that......he said:
(minus R2, 3PO, Luke, Leia, Kenobi and Vadar for obvious reasons)
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*squint* Hmm. Dunno how I missed that. Maybe I need to see an eye doc?
Anywho...I know the books and what not have given hints on origin stories, but I would definately like to see it played out. Yoda, Boba and Han are definately a good start - question is, will they be TV, straight-to-DVD/BlueRay/etc...? Or are they gonna do like the X-Men origin stories and make 'em theatrical releases, separate from the "main canon" but still part of the series?
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I think its very likely the movies will ignore parts if not all of the EU.
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I think its very likely the movies will ignore parts if not all of the EU.
Well, we'll just have to ignore the movies, now, won't we? *sage nod*
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Considering that Star Wars has a stratified canonicity with movies and television paramount, no.
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With my expectations for next Star Wars being sooo low, I guess anything better than prequels will please me ;) with JJ at the helm, I believe this can turn out pretty good ;)
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question is, will they be TV, straight-to-DVD/BlueRay/etc...?
Oh no these will be full on big screen movies.
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I wonder how credible this is
http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/02/18/report-star-wars-episode-vii-to-focus-on-skywalker-solo-kids
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If true, that means they had damn well better keep the EU versions. Sure, people protested the JJ-Trek, but at least it's an alternate reality (and it explicitly says so in the movie itself!), and the characters we knew were sorta the same. I wonder if the same excuse will be made for the JJ-Wars. Because otherwise, mark my words, there will be blood.
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I doubt they'll follow EU, mark my words.
The most IMO they'll use is the names, but not any of the stories. They want to make their own mark on the Star Wars universe.
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So if that's true... it's another kids movie like The Phantom Menace ... oh boy ...
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Who says the children will actually be children, it could be set to pick up when they are a similar age to luke and leia in ep 4... so 19
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Exactly, they didn't say they would be children just that they would be THE children.
Considering Mark, Carrie and Harrison's ages, the kids would be adults.
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Could be like that, then it makes it teenagers movie :D
I hoped for Thrawn's trilogy TBH , but it would be impossible to just make one without Harrison Ford, Mark Hamil, Carrie Fisher and Billy Dee Williams ... as far as I remember it was set few years or so, after ep 6... which would mean none of above mentioned could play their part anymore due to their age :(
Last thing I want is to see Han, Luke and Leia played by different actors :P
So later setting like their kids time period could work well ;)
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The thing is, the EU is going to get swept under the rug. It always will. You know why? Screen canon takes precedence over book canon. Not that I give a damn, after a certain point the books started getting stupid anyways.
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So this is new
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/03/06/star-wars-episode-7-carrie-fisher_n_2817168.html
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also:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57569647-1/report-harrison-ford-signs-on-to-play-han-solo/
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http://io9.com/5989234/george-lucas-says-luke-han-and-leia-will-all-be-back-for-star-wars-episode-vii
http://io9.com/5989336/did-george-lucas-play-a-bigger-role-in-developing-the-new-star-wars-movies-than-we-thought
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To add to that, the sequal trilogy was apparently already in-progress before the Disney deal happened.
Also, someone mentioned an interview in the 90s when George was getting the prequals underway that Mark Hamill wanted a part but George said no but told him that "I'll need you in 2011". Old George was already planning on eventually making a third trilogy 15-ish years ago.
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Clone Wars has been cancelled, have no idea if this has to do with Disney, there is a video talking about the show here and continuing the story, including never before seen footage.
http://starwars.com/news/a-new-direction-for-lucasfilm-animation.html
The fact they have full quality episode footage of an episode they have not released must mean they're still doing something. Possibly a web series.
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What?! Thats crap I hope they do indeed have it continue as a web series.
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The link also mentions
We are exploring a whole new Star Wars series set in a time period previously untouched in Star Wars films or television programming.
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I'm gonna be honest. While there is at least one storyline left hanging(lookin at you Maul), I felt the Season 5 finale was fitting for a series finale.
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http://kotaku.com/disney-shuts-down-lucasarts-468473749
RIP Lucasarts.
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So much for a first decent SW game (1313) since JKII.... I bet Disney is preparing another turd for kinect kids :bitch:
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Now that was a shock to me. I really didn't expect lucasarts to go down!
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It's backlashing against ILM, too:
http://variety.com/2013/digital/news/lucasarts-shutdown-triggers-layoffs-at-ilm-1200332765/
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Well LucasArts *technically* still exists, just not as a production Company.
In Response to this, Raven Software released the source code for Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/04/in-tribute-to-lucasarts-raven-releases-the-source-code-for-jedi-knight-ii/
I love game code for developer comments, someone also already compiled all the lines with the word 'fuck' in them
http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3614899&cid=43357479
this was in the AI Source code for Boba Fett
// Don't Forget To Turn Off That Flame Thrower, Mr. Fett - You're Waisting Precious Natural Gases
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This makes no sense to me. They're doing this because they want to reduce "risk". They belong to DISNEY! The same company that's stupid enough to make movies like Cars 2. Ugh. :banghead:
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You need to watch the vid released today by totalbiscuit, he brings up quite a few interesting points.
Here you go! -FarShot
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Totally didn't expect this at all. Would be nice to know what First Assualt was going to be though. Good on Raven for releasing the code to give those games their second wind. Funny that I get Jedi Academy for x-mas and now me and everyone else that has it will be able to enjoy the missions over again with all the different versions that will nodoubt be coming our way in the next few years.
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Totally didn't expect this at all. Would be nice to know what First Assualt was going to be though.
Rumor I heard was that it was going to be similar to Battlefront.
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Rumor I heard was that it was going to be similar to Battlefront.
Rumor also has it that it was going to be a "testing the waters" kind of thing to see if people still wanted Battlefront 3. You know, this could be a blessing. The last two games LucasArts did were Force Unleashed 2(great gameplay, but disappointing on most counts) and Kinect Star Wars(need I go on?).
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Totally didn't expect this at all. Would be nice to know what First Assualt was going to be though. Good on Raven for releasing the code to give those games their second wind. Funny that I get Jedi Academy for x-mas and now me and everyone else that has it will be able to enjoy the missions over again with all the different versions that will nodoubt be coming our way in the next few years.
Eh... anyone remembers Dark Forces mod for Jedi Academy ??? that was something :) and those hours .... oh my, those DAYSSS spent on playing my first PC game ever - DARK FORCES, damn, brings tears to my eye :D I wish that mod is going to speed up with source code :)
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Its official, the sequel trilogy movies will be released every other year starting in 2015. In the years between and for every year after for the forseeable future there will be spin-off films.
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Disclaimer: The Narrator is the Narrator for the Channel, not the show. This is from the same people who made The Clone Wars
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Well, the narrator for the channel sucks.
Still pissed that they cancelled The Clone Wars. It looked like they were finally going to go back to some Yoda and Plo Koon stories. Rebels should be interesting, though.
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Behind the Scenes
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so for the last 3 Wednesdays they've been releasing the original episodes 4,5,6 Teaser trailers on the Star Wars Youtube Page.
Next week I BELIEVE is the 1 year Anniversary of the Disney LucasFilm Merger
Will I be overly optimistic for Episode 7 news next week?
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Episode 7 screenplay is being written/re-written by Lawrence Kasdan, who also wrote the screenplay for Episodes 5 and 6.
http://scifimafia.com/2013/10/star-wars-episode-vii-locks-in-screenwriters-j-j-abrams-and-lawrence-kasdan/
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http://starwarsblog.starwars.com/2013/11/19/r2-d2-is-in-star-wars-episode-7-and-hes-fan-made/
So 2 members of the R2-D2 Builders Club have been hired as part of the Creature Effects team
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Anyone else taking part in that open casting?
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Anyone else taking part in that open casting?
:funny :funny :funny
No. :cry:
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:funny :funny :funny
No. :cry:
What's so funny? My vid gets uploaded tomorrow when I get it from my pal who recorded it for me. No chance of getting the part but I'd be a damn fool not to have a punt.
On another note, I do hope they don't kill off or otherwise incapacitate Ahsoka in the last episodes of TCW! She's actually rather central to something I'm working on atm and I'd go fucking ape if they did that. It'd force me to try and work out a whole new character, from scratch and quite likely end up rewriting the whole damn thing.
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There is no sign at all that they will air those 'lost episodes'.
So I doubt we'll never know what happened to her unless they reference her in Rebels, the lead guy likes the character so you never know.
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There is no sign at all that they will air those 'lost episodes'.
So I doubt we'll never know what happened to her unless they reference her in Rebels, the lead guy likes the character so you never know.
I've definitely seen in a few places that they are going to air the last episodes as a "season 6". In fact, the director has actually tweeted that iirc.
EDIT
https://twitter.com/dave_filoni/status/388851196472987648
There you go. (Only took me 20 mins or so to get that edit done. Damned server problems!)
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That's a relief. They seemed to finally getting back to the other characters with series 6. They ended up becoming to Obi/Ani centric IMO.
Gonna miss CW, but looking forward to Rebels.
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and my audition tape just went in. Yay. One less thing to worry about.
EDIT
Something just occurred to me. What if I (somehow) get the part AND (somehow) get offered a place at Oxford uni? Wtf am I going to do?! :idk:
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Uni work on set. :p
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I've definitely seen in a few places that they are going to air the last episodes as a "season 6". In fact, the director has actually tweeted that iirc.
EDIT
https://twitter.com/dave_filoni/status/388851196472987648
There you go. (Only took me 20 mins or so to get that edit done. Damned server problems!)
Oh wow, I didn't know.
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Rebels vid
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What's so funny? My vid gets uploaded tomorrow when I get it from my pal who recorded it for me. No chance of getting the part but I'd be a damn fool not to have a punt.
On another note, I do hope they don't kill off or otherwise incapacitate Ahsoka in the last episodes of TCW! She's actually rather central to something I'm working on atm and I'd go fucking ape if they did that. It'd force me to try and work out a whole new character, from scratch and quite likely end up rewriting the whole damn thing.
What's funny is that I wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell. I don't fit the description for either part.
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What's funny is that I wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell. I don't fit the description for either part.
lol, the only part of it that I'm not right for is my physique. I'm a wee bit on the soft side, but that's fixable (I've actually started hitting the gym in a big way with a friend of mine who works as a personal trainer in order to get things in order).
Even so, I still haven't got a chance of getting it. But I'd be a damned fool for not trying and an even bigger fool for not giving it my all!
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LucasFilm is planning on Stream lining 'canon'
http://ca.ign.com/articles/2014/01/07/lucasfilm-story-group-to-ensure-star-wars-continuity-across-all-platforms?+main+twitter
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Damn. Doesn't bode well for me.
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Hmm
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/entertainment/film-tv/news/fisher-confirms-star-wars-return-29940627.html
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one from 2 days ago.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/entertainment/film-tv/news/star-wars-7-script-finished-as-jj-abrams-confirms-breaking-bad-star-jesse-plemons-is-in-talks-29932017.html (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/entertainment/film-tv/news/star-wars-7-script-finished-as-jj-abrams-confirms-breaking-bad-star-jesse-plemons-is-in-talks-29932017.html)
Who the hell is Jesse Plemons?
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one from 2 days ago.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/entertainment/film-tv/news/star-wars-7-script-finished-as-jj-abrams-confirms-breaking-bad-star-jesse-plemons-is-in-talks-29932017.html (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/entertainment/film-tv/news/star-wars-7-script-finished-as-jj-abrams-confirms-breaking-bad-star-jesse-plemons-is-in-talks-29932017.html)
Who the hell is Jesse Plemons?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Plemons
Also Mark Hamill has been doing a AMA on reddit for the last hour
http://www.reddit.com/user/RealMarkHamill
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Every Clone Wars Episode + never before seen Director Cuts, the Movie and the new "Lost Missions" episodes are coming to Netflix March 7th for the US and Canada.
The Galactic Republic, Disney/ABC Television Group, Lucasfilm, and Netflix Inc. today announced the highly anticipated debut of the sixth and final season of the Emmy(r) Award-winning series Star Wars: The Clone Wars exclusively to Netflix members in the US and Canada on Friday, March 7. Accompanying the 13-episode new season dubbed "The Lost Missions" will be the entire Star Wars: The Clone Wars saga, which includes several director's cut episodes never seen on TV as well as the feature film. This multi-year agreement also makes Netflix the exclusive subscription service for the entire Star Wars: The Clone Wars series.
In these eagerly anticipated episodes of Star Wars: The Clone Wars, some of the deepest mysteries of the conflict between the light and the dark sides of the Force are revealed. An intrepid clone trooper discovers a shocking secret, Anakin Skywalker's closest relationship is tested to its limits, and what Master Yoda discovers while investigating the disappearance of a Jedi could forever change the balance of power in the galaxy. Fans will not only be able to watch the thrilling finale, they'll be able to see more of Star Wars: The Clone Wars than ever before as Netflix will also stream the director's cut of seasons one to five.
Also 2 new videos
First one is in English, the 2nd one is in German with English Subtitles (you will need to hit YouTube's Closed Captioning button on the player)
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Cool. I know what I will be doing in a few weeks.
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Well crap, guess us UK viewers are waiting a bit longer then xD
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Well crap, guess us UK viewers are waiting a bit longer then xD
There are addons for Chrome/Firefox to bypass region restrictions. I've been using "Hola Better Internet" in Chrome for months, accessing the US Netflix from Sweden :)
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There are addons for Chrome/Firefox to bypass region restrictions. I've been using "Hola Better Internet" in Chrome for months, accessing the US Netflix from Sweden :)
I've had this discussion before. Those things for whatever reason, don't work for me.
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Interesting
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/star-wars/29349/exclusive-star-wars-episode-vii-indiana-jones-5-update
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Final season of Clone Wars is now on netflix, pretty damn good if I say so myself.
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http://starwars.com/news/star-wars-episode-vii-set-to-roll-cameras-may-2014.html
Episode 7 to begin filming in May, it has been confirmed to take place 30 years after ROTJ.
For the heck of it, I decided to calculate how old some of the OT Characters would be if going by their EU birth dates.
Luke and Leia are 53
Han is 63
Chewbacca is 234 (I didn't realize Wookiees lived so long in the EU)
R2-D2's creation/activation date doesn't have a source on Wookieepdia
C-3P0 was activated by Anakin 66 Years before, but according to some sources his original components were built 146 years before EP7.
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Final season of Clone Wars is now on netflix, pretty damn good if I say so myself.
I really enjoy this season too.
http://starwars.com/news/star-wars-episode-vii-set-to-roll-cameras-may-2014.html
Episode 7 to begin filming in May, it has been confirmed to take place 30 years after ROTJ.
For the heck of it, I decided to calculate how old some of the OT Characters would be if going by their EU birth dates.
Luke and Leia are 53
Han is 63
Chewbacca is 234 (I didn't realize Wookiees lived so long in the EU)
R2-D2's creation/activation date doesn't have a source on Wookieepdia
C-3P0 was activated by Anakin 66 Years before, but according to some sources his original components were built 146 years before EP7.
I would love to see Kyle Katarn and Jan Ors in this movie working along with Han, Leia, Chewie and Luke :) it would be awesome
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To complement your post Kori, i'd like to add the following:
Mark Hamill (Luke), Born September 1951 (62 years old currently)
Carrie Fisher (Leia), Born October 1956 (57 years old currently)
Harrison Ford (Han), Born July 1942 (71 years old currently)
Effectively, this means that the actors real-life age is roughly 10 years older than their characters ages.
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http://starwars.com/news/star-wars-episode-vii-set-to-roll-cameras-may-2014.html
Episode 7 to begin filming in May, it has been confirmed to take place 30 years after ROTJ.
For the heck of it, I decided to calculate how old some of the OT Characters would be if going by their EU birth dates.
Luke and Leia are 53
Han is 63
Chewbacca is 234 (I didn't realize Wookiees lived so long in the EU)
R2-D2's creation/activation date doesn't have a source on Wookieepdia
C-3P0 was activated by Anakin 66 Years before, but according to some sources his original components were built 146 years before EP7.
Well, if the movie doesn't throw all the EU out the window, Chewbacca will be long gone...
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yes, actually, they fully intend to throw out EVERYTHING after the original trilogy. i'm betting they'll only keep a few selected parts of the prequal trilogy.
according to what I could determine from wookiepedia, threepio's chassis is eighty years old. his personality, however, probably dates from anakin's assembly. I believe Artoo is at least 50 years older.
however, none of that matters, now...it's all been pitched out the window.
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i'm betting they'll only keep a few selected parts of the prequal trilogy.
Highly unlikely, since it's half of the main series. Since Rebels follows on from Clone Wars, the 2008-2014 CW should be remaining as well, which is good. I loved that show, waiting eagerly for series 6 to hit blu-ray, now.
I believe they're also keeping the KotOR era games as canon, hopefully the Jedi Knight series as well.
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Highly unlikely, since it's half of the main series. Since Rebels follows on from Clone Wars, the 2008-2014 CW should be remaining as well, which is good. I loved that show, waiting eagerly for series 6 to hit blu-ray, now.
I believe they're also keeping the KotOR era games as canon, hopefully the Jedi Knight series as well.
Hell yes, I really hope they keep the JK series canon.
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Hell yes, I really hope they keep the JK series canon.
:yeahthat:
Kyle Katarn FTW
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I would like them to keep Mara Jade canon...she's one of my favorite characters in the Star Wars universe.
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I would like them to keep Mara Jade canon...she's one of my favourite characters in the Star Wars universe.
I Played Jedi Knight before I read any novels so my first experience with her was in the Expansion Pack, thought she was pretty damn cool. Also cannot beat a purple lightsaber.
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I Played Jedi Knight before I read any novels so my first experience with her was in the Expansion Pack, thought she was pretty damn cool. Also cannot beat a purple lightsaber.
In Mysteries of the Sith she wielded purple lightsaber but according to Thrawn trilogy it should be blue which she got from Luke, the same one he was given by Obi-Wan ;)
(although it was highly unlikely that both Luke's hand and lightsaber could be recovered from Bespin, it was clear in the scene when Luke spoted his hand and lightsaber falling from Cloud City)
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Her lightsaber has been depicted as purple most of the time, as far as I've seen. Also, there was some evil clone of Luke at one point that got the old lightsaber.
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In Mysteries of the Sith she wielded purple lightsaber but according to Thrawn trilogy it should be blue which she got from Luke, the same one he was given by Obi-Wan ;)
(although it was highly unlikely that both Luke's hand and lightsaber could be recovered from Bespin, it was clear in the scene when Luke spoted his hand and lightsaber falling from Cloud City)
That was not his hand and saber. There's no way, with as long as Luke was lectured by his old man, that he would've caught up with it. Likely it got caught somewhere.
Also, it's rather unclear if she ever had the purple lightsaber during her Jedi years, though some assume she built a replacement.
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Mara is depicted as having a Purple saber prior to the Thrawn Trilogy, might be why MOTS used it not knowing that she had a different one.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mara_Jade%27s_first_lightsaber
Anyone else Prefer the Phase 2 (Episode 3) Clone Armour to the Storm Trooper armour? I think it looks a lot nicer and meaner.
The Episode 2 style clone armour in Clone Wars looks a lot nicer then it appeared in Ep2.
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Anyone else Prefer the Phase 2 (Episode 3) Clone Armour to the Storm Trooper armour? I think it looks a lot nicer and meaner.
The Episode 2 style clone armour in Clone Wars looks a lot nicer then it appeared in Ep2.
Yes for both. I'm really going to miss CW. Waiting for the last episodes to hit blu-ray now. I think my favourite story is the one with the Jedi kids. It's nice to see more of the Jedi teaching at a younger age for once, and they managed not to go too childish with it. Also, David Tennant.
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Also, David Tennant.
He sounded so much like the Doctor when he lists off all the planets hes been to.
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I'm sure that I've read that that was intentional. If you listen to his voice, it's his Doctor voice, not his own.
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Some new shit here
1. Possible Stormtrooper Helmets
Concept Art: (these are 2 different helmets)
(http://imageserver.moviepilot.com/st-helmet-first-look-at-the-stormtroopers-from-star-wars-episode-vii.webp?width=570&height=460)
(http://imageserver.moviepilot.com/jt-sun-first-look-at-the-stormtroopers-from-star-wars-episode-vii.webp?width=570&height=435)
Physical model of the first piece (already better then the PT, there were no physical clones AT ALL, all CG or a guy in a green suit)
(https://indierevolver.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/stormtrooper-helmet-2-2.jpg)
And some Han Solo Concept Art
(https://indierevolver.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/han-trench.jpg)
(https://indierevolver.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/han-coat.jpg)
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A few more concepts there: http://imgur.com/gallery/dxM10
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I hope they will not put Han into the same set of clothes he wore throughout original trilogy :P I really like that brown trench coat tho, love the new stormie helmet !
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I have to admit that for some reason I thought of Howard the duck when I saw that helmet.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/14/146226/3042657-howard-the-duck-original.jpeg (http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/14/146226/3042657-howard-the-duck-original.jpeg)
I like it though. Looks good.
EDIT
WHOA that image was bigger than I thought. Edited to a url
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There is another image floating around that's pretty spoiler-y so seek it at your own discretion. Along with some other minor spoiler story bits as well.
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There is another image floating around that's pretty spoiler-y so seek it at your own discretion. Along with some other minor spoiler story bits as well.
Thread title says it "may contain spoilers". So, spoil away. If people don't want to read spoilers, don't click on this thread. Simple :P
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A few more concepts there: http://imgur.com/gallery/dxM10
3 of those I believe are Fan art. I know the one with the twitter post below it is, it was an interpretation of what they saw.
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Yeah the bottom three images are actual pics of the real things. The middle one being the jungle trooper variant.
As for the spoiler-y main villain image its not so much who I guess but what he is holding. His title btw is the Sith Inquisitor and he will be seen in Rebels. Though I guess Rebels in general will relate to the new trilogy in more ways than that anyways.
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/68394 <- Other plot info and the Inquisitor's robotic arm.
http://indierevolver.com/2014/08/15/indie-revolver-exclusive-no-one-expects-the-sith-inquisition/ <-The image itself.
Han freaking Solo in command of a freaking SSD! Lusankya anyone?
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I'm getting a strange feeling I don't like where it goes ... couldn't JJ make the main villain oldschool, plainly evil with clear motiv to achieve his goal no matter what ? past experience shows these kind of villains work the best, less flashy and complicated they are, better they go along with the movie ;) I just hope JJ won't go for making Heath Ledger's Joker in Star Wars :P
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I don't trust anything until JJ says it, and even then it's subject to suspicion. Only things I think we know for sure right now are that Luke, Han, Leia, Chewie, 3PO, and R2 are in it along with an X-Wing and the Millennium Falcon.
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Yep, and God I'm glad JJ decided to build full scale Millenium Falcon instead of lame ass cgi interiors :) I hope they go with more props than CGI's this time (even tho CGI in prequels were ok in space, they sucked so much on the planet surfaces ... the worst being Jedi academy ;) )
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Some photos of the new X-Wings and the Millennium Falcon under construction: http://imgur.com/gallery/30WVt
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http://www.starwars.com/video/the-clone-wars-legacy
They released 4 unfinished Clone Wars episodes. All the dialogue is recorded. Even with the incomplete animations, they're pretty good. You get the gist of it.
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A hooded chromed Stormtrooper has been leaked. Replacing the red guards maybe? Could be ceremonial even.
http://furiousfanboys.com/2014/09/leaked-photo-of-episode-viis-chrome-stormtrooper/
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Quick shot of Vader from Rebels (Maybe we should rename this to Star Wars General Chat, or maybe make a thread for other stuff)
(http://i1.wp.com/makingstarwars.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Vader-Rebels.jpg)
Video of the scene will probably be up on the 26th or later. Can't believe they got James Earl Jones to voice him.
His helmet appears to be based off, like everything else, Ralph McQuarrie Concept Art
(http://i1.wp.com/makingstarwars.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Star_Wars_Novel.jpg)
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A hooded chromed Stormtrooper has been leaked. Replacing the red guards maybe? Could be ceremonial even.
http://furiousfanboys.com/2014/09/leaked-photo-of-episode-viis-chrome-stormtrooper/
I believe that one has been referred to as a "Knight Trooper".
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Official title revealed
https://twitter.com/starwars/status/530404275957293056
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(http://www.starwars7news.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/theforceawakens.jpg)
Now it's officially, official!
I think the title is appropriate, and it does make one speculate it's meaning. Bring on 2015, I say.
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Hopefully everyone here has seen the new trailer. I can't wait for this movie. I was surprised to learn that the little soccer ball droid was a practical effect and not CGI.
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New thread, or just reuse this one (with a rename) for Episode 8?
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New thread, or just reuse this one (with a rename) for Episode 8?
Its probably best to start a new thread, if you want to discuss Episode 8.
BR32
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New thread created, and this one will be unstickied :)
http://www.bc-central.net/forums/index.php/topic,10113.0.html