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Offline NatsuKagura

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Could someone guide me to use Ftech?
« on: February 08, 2010, 04:03:39 AM »
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Hello guys...  ;) here I got a problem using FTech from "foundationtech20051126.rar"....
I extract the file and copy it to BC folder. But when I launch the game.... it crash.. :eek .. it's just hang with a blank screen with only Starfleet cursor left.  :mad (even without any ship using the news technology)  :(
This's screw my BC file, even I deleted all the Ftech file, the game won't launch.. :'( .. it's crash again. Reinstall doesn't work either.  :'( So I deleted all the BC file and reinstall it again.  :'( It's happen six times yesterday....  :eek
Did I missed something here?  :roll

I know this's a stupid question but since I was newbie in scripting, but ....  :(
1. Could someone guide me how to make FTech work?  :P
2. The Ftech says the technology is a plugin... what's means?  :s Is this means I can add a technology into a specific ship's script ?  :) Without installing the Foundation Tech into the BC folder?
3. Could someone guide me how to add technology (ablative armor & regenerative shielding) to a ships in example  :dance ? I have seen the explanation on the file but still don't understand without seeing the example....   :assimilate

Thank you very very much......  :D
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Re: Could someone guide me to use Ftech?
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2010, 04:47:28 AM »
Dunno about that crashing but your best bet would be taking sceen of the console report during the crash so we could pin point what's the problem.

As for adding FTech, yes you need it in your BC in order to have it working and second yes, you need to add it into each ship you want. I can't remember exact instructions but you need to add ship property named ablative armour in order to have it on your ship, same goes for phased cloak, advanced disruptors etc. of course you need to use Model Property Editor to add new properties to ships hardpoints.
As for special torpedos simply open FTech archive go to scripts/tactical/projectiles, check names of new torpedos (I presume you already copied all contents into BC directory, and then place new torpedos via Model Property editor into Torpedos property in each ship hardpoint.

one more question, are you using KM mod ? if yes then it contains most FTech in it already and these are newer versions than those provided in separate mod ;) so this might cause error.

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Re: Could someone guide me to use Ftech?
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2010, 02:23:27 PM »
You can add all ship based technologies with BCUT's plugin editor.

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Re: Could someone guide me to use Ftech?
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2010, 11:18:10 PM »
Dunno about that crashing but your best bet would be taking sceen of the console report during the crash so we could pin point what's the problem.
ehem.... well it's just blank anyway.. :wtf.. like you'r sucked into a black hole...   :mad  
the only left is our default BC cursor (yellow Fed's Logo cursor). :roll No message or report either. just black screen.. :mad.. the game's hang but the windows not... so I get the hell out of my ship, I mean my game by pressing ALT+Tab...  :evil


As for adding FTech, yes you need it in your BC in order to have it working and second yes, you need to add it into each ship you want. I can't remember exact instructions but you need to add ship property named ablative armour in order to have it on your ship, same goes for phased cloak, advanced disruptors etc. of course you need to use Model Property Editor to add new properties to ships hardpoints.
As for special torpedos simply open FTech archive go to scripts/tactical/projectiles, check names of new torpedos (I presume you already copied all contents into BC directory, and then place new torpedos via Model Property editor into Torpedos property in each ship hardpoint.

Hmmm.....that's what i need,  :D thanks Bones, I'll try that soon but after my Ftech is work .. :D.. tehe... and may be I'll ask you again  ;) since I may got stuck again later...muahahahaha...  :funny


one more question, are you using KM mod ? if yes then it contains most FTech in it already and these are newer versions than those provided in separate mod ;) so this might cause error.

Nope.... :P.. well... I am planning to use KM too, but at the moment I haven't installed it yet.. :D..

Oh yeah... :eek almost forgot... the last one I got hang is caused by the script named "....Foundation...Triggers..."  :mad (I don't remmember the name's detail). I delete it, and the game run.  ;) But when I trying Borg ships that using one of the tech (shield drainer tech). I was kicked....  :'(   (except that, no other ship or torpedo in my game using any technology anyway)
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Re: Could someone guide me to use Ftech?
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2010, 11:29:53 PM »
You can add all ship based technologies with BCUT's plugin editor.

Hmmm...  Ok... I have download it but haven't use it yet since then,  :roll I think this is the time for me to try them and see the result.... thanx Teleguy.. :D.. Perhaps it can be my solution or alternative solution....  ;)
I'll report again soon after I got the result...  :D
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Re: Could someone guide me to use Ftech?
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2010, 12:29:21 AM »
First of all, there is an edit button at the bottom of your post, you don't need to double post.
Secondly, instead of insulting the guy because you didn't know what he was talking about, check the forums, there is a sticky in the tech support section all about dealing with the Black screen with yellow cursor and getting a console report.

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Re: Could someone guide me to use Ftech?
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2010, 02:59:21 AM »
Oh dear... even when the Black Screen of Death occurs you can still get console report :roll you just need to hit 'tilde' button it's over the tab button while being under ESC button... after opening the console hit 'PRT SC' button or F12 to get a picture...

Now, I'm not used to get a reply to my polite post by which I'm tryin to help you get out of the mess, like 'WTF are you talking about dude...geez what a pric*, I checked and it doesn't work so GTFO' .... yes, this how I can get it after seeing so much 'WTF', 'Roll Eyes' and 'mad' emoticons... either don't use them, or ASK how to get the console report (now guess how this emoticons set implies to my speech) :mad :roll :wtf - it means I'm dissapointed by your strange attitude...

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Re: Could someone guide me to use Ftech?
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2010, 03:04:26 AM »
The console tracker at BCFiles is another good way of getting console dumps, if you still have issues. It can even get them when BC crashes to the desktop...very handy.  :)

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Re: Could someone guide me to use Ftech?
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2010, 12:00:26 AM »
Oh dear... even when the Black Screen of Death occurs you can still get console report :roll you just need to hit 'tilde' button it's over the tab button while being under ESC button... after opening the console hit 'PRT SC' button or F12 to get a picture...

Now, I'm not used to get a reply to my polite post by which I'm tryin to help you get out of the mess, like 'WTF are you talking about dude...geez what a pric*, I checked and it doesn't work so GTFO' .... yes, this how I can get it after seeing so much 'WTF', 'Roll Eyes' and 'mad' emoticons... either don't use them, or ASK how to get the console report (now guess how this emoticons set implies to my speech) :mad :roll :wtf - it means I'm dissapointed by your strange attitude...

Sorry, Bones ... I think you get it wrong there... and sorry if I have made a misunderstanding there too. The icons I used is to express my feelings and frustation (eventhough I like the game very much) toward the Games itself, I never using it toward anyone, now and forever.
Seems that botheting you is, for example :
first : when I said "well it's just blank anyway.. wtf.. " ; I means "wtf happening with this game? I can't see anything!" This's troublesome for me since I need to figure out the troubled file one by one. I didn't means "wtf r u taking about"
second : when I said "roll eyes No message or report either" ;  I means "hmmm.... (thinking hard) I don't have any idea here....hmm.. " since no matter how hard I try, no message/windows or anything, even I already out of the games, I'm not actually out by using alt-Tab anyway, it's just minimizing the game"
third : when I said "the last one I got hang is caused by the script named "....Foundation...Triggers..."  mad "/ just black screen.. mad.." ; I means "Shit... you (this file) again" since I get the same result when I downloading another file with almost the same name (....Trigger...). I got a long searching to find the trouble the last time. And I got the troubled file after reinstalling and deleting the BC folder six times a day.

So I never intend to use an icon to hurt anyone else since the first place.
I hope anyone can keep it too, that I NEVER use a bad word, bad responds, or anything unpolite thing as a respond toward my helper/reader.
And how could I say something bad like that to you, Bones, to think that you'r one of very first of my helper? (Btw what's u said earlier about "...GTFO..." , It's never crossed my mind)
Well... In the most extreme circumstance, I prefer not to answer a comment rather than using a bad attitude/word anyway.   

Since I always take a positive manner toward anyone else, I also believe that BC put all "expression icons" not to cause a mess, so I try to though their way too. ( I also think it's a waste if not using them)
So I think :  :mad = "shit.. the error is happening again" ;  :roll = "hmmm...thinking hard..." or "no comment...can't determine (still thinking)" ;  :evil = "hehehe...nasty mind...just kidding"
 :wtf = "wtf happening with my.....? my computer got to be kidding me" ;  :( = "oh my...my... I don't have clue with this... I think I'll live with this error forever" ;  :eek = "oh my god!"
you see?
That's what I means, Bones... sorry again....
Also as long as I read the forum, sometimes I barely feels the member's feeling/expression if they didn't put an Icon there.... for some reason they can suddenly angry, offended, etc. I feel sorry with them. So I just try using icons to make my post with a stable attitude there. As well as saying "thank you" as my appreciation.. no matter how little the helper's contribution is...
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Re: Could someone guide me to use Ftech?
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2010, 12:10:22 AM »
The console tracker at BCFiles is another good way of getting console dumps, if you still have issues. It can even get them when BC crashes to the desktop...very handy.  :)

Hmm.... console Tracker? ... :roll.. I have heard it,but never download it.. :D..  I think this is the time for me to me find it & download it soon.. :dance.. Thanks Nero .. ;).. I'll report the result soon after I use it. Hmmm... may be this one can tell me what's I missed there.....  :arms:
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Re: Could someone guide me to use Ftech?
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2010, 01:06:25 AM »
First of all, there is an edit button at the bottom of your post, you don't need to double post.
Secondly, instead of insulting the guy because you didn't know what he was talking about, check the forums, there is a sticky in the tech support section all about dealing with the Black screen with yellow cursor and getting a console report.

Double Post? I didn't noticed it since the last time I'm posting it, since my internet connection goes mad last time. Thank you, I'll be more careful next time.
About the forum, I know & I have read the post about Black Screen with yellow cursor,a long time before ( If we talk about the same post anyway). I have face similar the problems before, but as long as I remember, it's about modifying the tech/ships. In the other way, I got problem with the installation of the basic/original FTech itself, what's I need is a sugestion if I missed something there. But perhaps I'll search that post again, too see if there is something updated there. Thank for the suggestion.     
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Re: Could someone guide me to use Ftech?
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2010, 07:42:20 AM »
no worries :)
you may also want to browse around BCS for other info about BC and scripting...
http://bcs-tng.com/forums/index.php

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Re: Could someone guide me to use Ftech?
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2010, 09:22:58 PM »
no worries :)
you may also want to browse around BCS for other info about BC and scripting...
http://bcs-tng.com/forums/index.php

Ow... Copy that,sir  :D ! Thank u very much, Jimmy... I'll check it out....   ;)

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Re: Could someone guide me to use Ftech?
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2010, 10:15:34 PM »
Hics... capt.Jimmy, I can't warp into BCS-TNG site, Capt.... :'(
My parking brake is stuck...  :evil..  I means somehow the computer tell my verification code is wrong... :s...  but I am pretty sure already type the right one there....  :(
 
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Re: Could someone guide me to use Ftech?
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2010, 08:57:29 AM »
youre unable to create an account at BCS?  what exactly happens when you try?  im sure we can fix that up, but i am curious what happens on your end?

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Re: Could someone guide me to use Ftech?
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2010, 09:06:32 PM »
Well.... I registered it like ussualy.. ;).. I fill every answer ... and ... the result is :
"Simple... you cannot register on this board if you are not."  :eek
The  next time I fill the same exact answer it shows : ummm... I forget ... but it say's as if I put a wrong verification code....  :s
Did .... I missed something here?  :arms:
By the way... Thanx Jim....  :D  :evil :D :evil :D :evil :D :hide
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Re: Could someone guide me to use Ftech?
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2010, 12:31:47 PM »
Well.... I registered it like ussualy.. ;).. I fill every answer ... and ... the result is :
"Simple... you cannot register on this board if you are not."  :eek
The  next time I fill the same exact answer it shows : ummm... I forget ... but it say's as if I put a wrong verification code....  :s
Did .... I missed something here?  :arms:
By the way... Thanx Jim....  :D  :evil :D :evil :D :evil :D :hide

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Re: Could someone guide me to use Ftech?
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2010, 02:54:28 AM »


To question "Are you alive?" you reply "Of course I'm alive".
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Ow... thanx USS Sovereign.. ;). um.... Sorry to answer it so long  ;), I was hospitalized for almost a full week  :'(ago... so my ship is return to space dock for equipment upgrade  :D (kidding) .... I'll try it now... Helms.... Warp nine enga........  :dance.... wait a minute.... It's not working Sovie.... :eek it's shown "You did not answer the verification questions correctly." boooo... :'(...... or ....well I'll try to my other PC then, hhmmm.. :arms:... perhaps there's some uncompatiblity with my current laptop....  :assimilate
I'll reporting back soon after I try it.... doumo arigatou gozaimasuu.... :D

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Re: Could someone guide me to use Ftech?
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2010, 03:47:00 AM »
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:D Hi guys, I already trying to use BCUT like Teleguy's suggestion....  :D
Since the readme is not that detailed about how to do especially for very very beginner, :P I was confused how to use it, can someone or any nearby Fed's ships assist me to add technology to my ship for example : USS Thunderbird and technology is "Ablative Armour" and "Regenerative Shielding"....?  :D :D :D

Captain's log : the Ftech file that I mentioned before (about the blank screen), ;) is working under BCUT installation process.  :dance  Well... some file is very..very similar but there's other additional files as well. (may be that's why my earlier Ftech isn't working).
Well I would like to try my older files again so I can show the error to Bones as I promised  :D, but I'm afraid I can't do it right now  :hide since I was quite busy with my current work. So I'll try it as soon as I get finished my job. :dance (well I prefer the older one since it was a seperated files, so perhaps I can activated the technology  :D without overwriting other's modified(?) Ftech files)   ;)

 :eek Oh ya One more thing.... there's something ...funny...  :P  I just copy & paste ablative armour from Voyager (Hardpoint) file, to my borg ship (without shield, so I can see the immediate result)... the result is, my ablatve-A is added to my ship's hardpoint list, :P but the ship's hardpoint is still damaged as soon as it was hit. :eek As long as I know, isn't it that when we'r under fire, the Ablative-A should be the one that damaged instead of the Hardpoint itself? :angel I'm sure I missed something here... any... suggest...?  :D

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Re: Could someone guide me to use Ftech?
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2010, 05:17:05 AM »
To add Ablative Armour go to Bcut->Plugin Editor->Edit FTech properties and select "Ablative Armour" from the list. The Armour name is also "Ablative Armour" and the tech value determines how much damage the armor can take before it fails. Optionally you can add a hull property called "Ablative Armour" to the ships hardpoint so you can check ingame how much armor is left.

To add Regenerative Shields select "Regenerative Shields" from the tech list. The tech value is the chance of the technologie working. If you use 1 it always works and with 0.5 only half the time.