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BC Forums => BC Modding => Topic started by: WileyCoyote on May 09, 2012, 09:19:19 PM
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I'm creating a modding group called The Loonatics, and the team is composed of myself, Farshot, Bones, Centurus, Phoenix, Toa_Kaita (promotional video), Meteorafallen and Alejandro Todisco. I've never created a group before, but I would like to work with skilled people who produce nice work. I'll be able to help people out with modeling/mapping/texturing.
If you want to help out with this project, send me a PM and I'll consider it.
The project: With help from Todisco, he was able to obtain the ACTUAL ingame ship meshes (from a designer of the original ST: Invasion game) for us to use AS REFERENCE in this project. The group will be making all of these ships from scratch with better detail.
Star Trek Invasion is a very popular game, and I thought bringing these ships into Bridge Commander would be fun. I am also planning on making periodic video tutorials to share with the community.
Be looking for updates in the next several weeks! Stay tuned!
PROJECT 1: BC-Community Valkyrie Fighters
Similar to how Paramount was promoting Star Trek: 2009, with many different artists coming up with their interpretations of the Enterprise, my idea is once we get the smaller fighters built and mapped, we can have many people here "paint up" their fighter to make theirs unique. The ships will then be released together, separately from the main mod.
IN PROGRESS
USS Sentinel-WileyCoyote
Akira Class-WileyCoyote DONE, needs slight HP scripting
Borg Tetragon DONE, needs HP
B'rel Bird of Prey- Phoenix
Hurq Fighter- Bones
Medical Freighter- FarShot
Spacedock- FarShot
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I was wondering what the top secret modding project you recruited us for was. Sounds fun. Looks like I need to play ST: Invasion then. ;)
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Cannot wait! Invasion was one of my favorite games and I have full confidence that everyone here will do it justice!
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It'll definitely be nice to have some ships to go with the Valkyries. :D
Also, nice Looney Tunes reference with the group name. :thumbsup:
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I'm honored to be part of it :) once I'm done with school (all the exams and thesis in june/july) it's gonna be helluva fun !
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To kickstart this project: The USS Sentinel mesh is done. It is based off of the Post-Nemesis version by John Eaves. Enjoy! :D
I have not forgotten to add the phaser arrays.
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Meshes/Star%20Trek%20Invasion%20BC%20Mod%202012/USS%20Sentinel/wip1.jpg)
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Meshes/Star%20Trek%20Invasion%20BC%20Mod%202012/USS%20Sentinel/wip1_2.jpg)
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Meshes/Star%20Trek%20Invasion%20BC%20Mod%202012/USS%20Sentinel/wip1_3.jpg)
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Meshes/Star%20Trek%20Invasion%20BC%20Mod%202012/USS%20Sentinel/wip1_4.jpg)
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Sentinel looks awesome. Is she getting an updated texture scheme as well? Eaves wrote that the Post-Nem E had an aztec reminiscent of past Enterprises.
Can we get sigs too? :D
So when are we going to start handing out assignments? I'm guessing I'm a ship modeler.
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Very nice Wiley. Love the Bussard collectors on that beast.
I remember playing that game but I could never get passed a certain level... or maybe never took enough time to really try to get passed it. It's been so long that I don't remember what level it was.
Loved the ships though, and I know that this project and the people you have in the team are top notch.
Look forward for what's to come :yay:
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Is she getting an updated texture scheme as well? Eaves wrote that the Post-Nem E had an aztec reminiscent of past Enterprises.
She will get an updated color scheme, and coloring similar to the ingame Sentinel.
So when are we going to start handing out assignments?
I'm still in the process of getting the ships. It might be next week. So far, there is a good variety between alien and Federation ships.
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Wow, the Sentinel looks awesome! Always liked that they made some changes so you could distinguish it from the big-E, and you've really given her a much sleeker version of those changes.
EDIT: I like the idea of the community members designing their own look for a Valkyrie.
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just out of curiosity, and prolly a stupid question, but what are the differences between the Sentinel and a Sovereign Class? is it just the extra impulse engines?
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just out of curiosity, and prolly a stupid question, but what are the differences between the Sentinel and a Sovereign Class?
Darker hull coloring, extra impulse engines, and modified nacelles.
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That ship looks SWEET! love the nacelles on her!
You guys will do those ships justice!
Good Luck!
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The nacelles look wonderful.
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ST:I was console only so I couldn't play it but this will be on my must have list for sure. And as for the custom Valkyrie the texture file for it will be setup like a template or whats the plan there? I've already got an idea for mine.
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\o/ OMG!!! IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!! I cannot wait to see the textures on this beauty. Outstanding work Wiley!
Apart from the cosmetic differences, the Sentinel was also equipped with an Inter-Spatial Warp Drive. Now what that means I have no idea, but whatever it was reacted the the frequencies of the Kam-Jathe and Hur'q somehow.
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is your team member Alejandro Todisco a member here?
if not, perhaps you should encourage him to sign up :)
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Im going to start work on a mockup of the promo video tonight with the models that are available on BCFiles, maybe I can have it done by next week if all goes well. :3
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I'm looking forward to watch this promo video. :)
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I'm remapping the Sentinel, and this time it will be using ID maps.
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Meshes/Star%20Trek%20Invasion%20BC%20Mod%202012/USS%20Sentinel/wip2.jpg)
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Nice!
What are those red thingys on the top deck near the bridge?
BTW, just a friendly reminder for you to release the fix for the backward text on the starfleet pennant for your Sovvies :)
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Looking slick. I'm guessing the phaser strips are gonna be textures only on this one to conserve polies?
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What are those red thingys on the top deck near the bridge?
The bridge area is unmapped.
just a friendly reminder for you to release the fix for the backward text on the starfleet pennant for your Sovvies
I plan on fixing that also.
I'm guessing the phaser strips are gonna be textures only on this one to conserve polies?
No, they are not in the frame. I moved them off so I can texture the ship easier. The saucer is now on ONE texture (using symmetry).
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She's looking great Wiley
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ah, the joy's of knowing when you've bitten off more than you can chew lol :P my ships going to be slow going guys the BOP is a pain in ze azz! lol
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considering the only successful model I've ever built was the Citadel from Mass Effect (got to find some time to port it and realease it ) the fighter I took for modeling might be a challenge :D so you're not alone phoenix ;)
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If you guys have difficulty with the models at any point, feel free to bounce them to me for a look. I'm sure Wiley can help as well. ;)
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Here's another work-in-progress, the new Akira Class. Ignore the mesh issue at the bridge, it is an issue caused by welded vertices from the symmetry modifier.
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Meshes/Star%20Trek%20Invasion%20BC%20Mod%202012/Akira%20Class/wip1.jpg)
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Meshes/Star%20Trek%20Invasion%20BC%20Mod%202012/Akira%20Class/wip1_1.jpg)
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Meshes/Star%20Trek%20Invasion%20BC%20Mod%202012/Akira%20Class/wip1_2.jpg)
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Excellent!
But the sharp areas of the catamarans (top parts especially) need to be more "rounded" off.
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Wiley you are a god! :bow:
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:woot: I love Akira's!
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But the sharp areas of the catamarans (top parts especially) need to be more "rounded" off.
I'm still working on that area.
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Seeing as this is an Invasion Mod, do you think you could do hull colour varients, like was done on the intimidator class, where you had the war varient, normal and prototype colourings? i feel this would be a unique touch to these excelent quality ships when theyre done.
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Seeing as this is an Invasion Mod, do you think you could do hull colour varients, like was done on the intimidator class
I was never a fan of the 3-nacelled Sovereign.
As for color variants, that might be a possibility for the Valkyries.
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:eek A new Akira!!! Yay!
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But the sharp areas of the catamarans (top parts especially) need to be more "rounded" off.
Done with that area, plus I added some details, and the bridge module.
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Meshes/Star%20Trek%20Invasion%20BC%20Mod%202012/Akira%20Class/wip1_3.jpg)
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Wiley you make it ever so hard to come up with compliments that have never been said about your awesome work!
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Very nice Wiley.
Great work!
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Wiley you make it ever so hard to come up with compliments that have never been said about your awesome work!
Looks like you found one, lol. My turn...
Hmm...
That Akira? I'd hit it. Aww yeah... ;)
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Looks like you found one, lol. My turn...
Hmm...
That Akira? I'd hit it. Aww yeah... ;)
With a spread of gravametric torpedoes?
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I was just looking back over Doug Drexler's Akira Class blog post (http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/06/12/alex-jaeger-week-the-akira-class/) last night and think how frakking beautiful a ship it is! You're knocking this one out of the park, as per usual!
Perhaps my memory fails me, but, apart from appearing in some of the fleet shots in the CG cutscenes, what significance did the Akira have in Invasion? I realise it's a fighter carrier ship itself, and that's friggin' awesome, but is there another reason for you to be making it in this thread?
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what significance did the Akira have in Invasion?
The Akira was part of the larger response fleet, and was the first ship to get destroyed by Hurq Mothership.
Thanks for the link! That's going to really help me with the underside.
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I remember that from the game...vaguely. I was never very good at it...loved the designs, but without the cheat codes, I sucked. :P And people tell Alex Jaeger that the Akira has too many torpedo launchers? It needs that many to cover the fact that she has only three phaser arrays...
EDIT: Just put the game in for the first time in a while and took a look at the models. Are you going to give the Nausicaan fighter a new design if you do it, or are you going to stick to the Dominion bugship flying backwards design?
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The Akira was part of the larger response fleet, and was the first ship to get destroyed by Hurq Mothership.
Thanks for the link! That's going to really help me with the underside.
Oh, no problem at all! I didn't really intend to post reference *cowers*, just to indicate the post I meant. Glad it was useful!
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Just put the game in for the first time in a while and took a look at the models. Are you going to give the Nausicaan fighter a new design if you do it, or are you going to stick to the Dominion bugship flying backwards design?
I haven't received that model just yet. Most/all of the ships shown in ST: Invasion will be getting a High-Res update, in both textures and mesh construction.
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Almost done with the Akira. I cleaned up a ton of verticies in the saucer (left over from using the lathe tool). The final mesh would be in 10-15k poly range.
Enjoy!
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Meshes/Star%20Trek%20Invasion%20BC%20Mod%202012/Akira%20Class/wip1_4.jpg)
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Meshes/Star%20Trek%20Invasion%20BC%20Mod%202012/Akira%20Class/wip1_5.jpg)
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Good work Wiley, go on, I like this vessel. :yay:
All my add-ons on celestia have an akira class. :dance
I'm very interested in your model, where can I find it ?
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Good work Wiley, go on, I like this vessel. :yay:
All my add-on on celestia have a akira class. :dance
I'm very interested in your model, where can I find it ?
It's not out yet.
Looking fantastic there Wiley!
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Within the next few days, I'll be ramping up my participation in this team. I've been off modding for a month while I worry about getting some RL back in order. Right now I'm actually getting my portion of the house into a usable state - in other words, getting my desktop set up once again. I've been working off of a laptop the last several months and it just doesn't cut it.
I'm planning to tackle the Federation medical freighter and spacedock, as seen in the first post. Stay tuned.
A question for the team members: Should we get some form of communication structure between us that doesn't rely on BCC's PM system? I prefer IM's myself. I really like talking with fellow modders regarding creative and personal matters - as a believer of tabula rasa, I think us as people defines our work as well.
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Might I suggest Skype as a possible form of communication? Can be used both for voice communication, video and texting (IMs).
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Might I suggest Skype as a possible form of communication? Can be used both for voice communication, video and texting (IMs).
phoenixfett - skype
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Might I suggest Skype as a possible form of communication? Can be used both for voice communication, video and texting (IMs).
Good idea.
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ToaKaita47 is my Skype username.
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I made a new one, farshot927, for modding/business purposes. My other account is full of gamers I used to play Minecraft with and facebook friends.
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I'm going to attempt a Skype session tonight 6pm Central Time (if anyone is on). My Skype username is wileycoyote1701.
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someone should record this event and then post it afterwards :)
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someone should record this event and then post it afterwards
It's Skype, not Livestream. It's mainly to talk to people of my group about the project.
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Ready and waiting. ;)
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i'll be online, will be watching tng so just grab me when ready
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To my surprise, the Akira's nacelles are a bit tricky to construct, but I won't give up.
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Meshes/Star%20Trek%20Invasion%20BC%20Mod%202012/Akira%20Class/wip1_6.jpg)
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It doesn't look too bad. There's obviously something up with the smoothing near the edge, but you can probably tell. I'm sure you'll have that hammered down pat within a day anyways. ;)
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Good work all around Mr, Coyote!
Loonatics.... I know it?s off topic, but the title makes me remember that old song from 80?s: www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwrxK6ogxhc :D
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That's an awesome model! I'm totally jealous of your modeling skills!
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Can i be a Loonatic? :P
Hi people, nice to meet you all. I'm the original model supplier.
I have another STI stuff too, years of search, so all of you must do the best with this :thumbsup:. Let's work on this! :yay:
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Hey, welcome to the forums!
I'm a modeler and will be tackling the Fed Med Freighter soon. ;)
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So, I updated USS Ray (made by Michael Raab) in USS Curie, a modern UFP freighter.
I used cylindrical containers, which joined to vessel.
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj566/bdfd/Gallimanianfreighters.jpg)
Here are USS Curie (light freighter) and USS Joliot (heavy freighter=71 containers) with workbees...
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Hey, welcome to the forums!
I'm a modeler and will be tackling the Fed Med Freighter soon. ;)
It's an awesome starship. One of the more fantastic. Guys... we have few of the most original designs used for a ST game. I never have time for all this :(
You make a good model, and i made the high resolution model for animation from that.
Take a look on this video, and watch wich high poly model appears at the end of the video. Not all the models are my designs! http://www.modelermagic.com/?p=25675 (http://www.modelermagic.com/?p=25675)
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This is My old High Poly Sentinel (sorry for the bad lights)
(http://bckobayashimaru.de/phpBB3/download/file.php?id=143)
(http://bckobayashimaru.de/phpBB3/download/file.php?id=141)
Below, comparison with the STI Original model of the Sentinel and Enterprise.
(http://bckobayashimaru.de/phpBB3/download/file.php?id=140)
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The ship designs were my favorite part of Star Trek Invasion, they were all very well done, but the Sentinel always screamed, "I'm a bad motherf***er, get out of my way."
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The Akira mesh is done, and it's 13.7k polys. Enjoy! :D
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Meshes/Star%20Trek%20Invasion%20BC%20Mod%202012/Akira%20Class/wip1_7.jpg)
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Meshes/Star%20Trek%20Invasion%20BC%20Mod%202012/Akira%20Class/wip1_8.jpg)
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Holy snap! Thats certainly something.
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Holy snap! Thats certainly something.
You sir, are the great grandmaster of understatements. Unfortunately, mere words do not do this justice, so have a cookie instead!
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Excellent work Wiley.
Outstanding mesh!
Cookie
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Well, thats the winner of this months motm lol
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My word! I love it!
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Not bad...
Just kidding :P
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Not bad...
Just kidding :P
Oh, so it is bad? :P
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Mr. Farshot, load quantum torpedoes and fire on Constable :evil:
Amazing work Wiley !!! Now I really would love to see your take on Nebula class family !
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Now I really would love to see your take on Nebula class family !
Is that a request?
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Amazing work Wiley !!! Now I really would love to see your take on Nebula class family !
Is that a request?
if so, please please please put together a Dominion-War/late ds9-era Nebula Class (which is different from the regular standard model) :D
one consisting of all Galaxy Class parts (saucer, stardrive, deflector, nacelles, etc) - i have been dying for one of those in my BC install for years! lol
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if so, please please please put together a Dominion-War/late ds9-era Nebula Class (which is different from the regular standard model) :D
one consisting of all Galaxy Class parts (saucer, stardrive, deflector, nacelles, etc) - i have been dying for one of those in my BC install for years! lol
I take it this Nebula Class is DIFFERENT than the studio model (differences in saucer, engineering hull, etc), and it is the CGI version made with STANDARD Galaxy Class parts? CGI references of this particular ship can be seen at Ex Astris Scientia website.
If so, I actually like that version compared to the studio model. I'll consider it.
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yeah it is the CGI model with the standard galaxy class parts - exactly! i sooo much more prefer that one over the studio model...
the CGI model looks much more like the Galaxy Class's "younger brother" and just looks much better, IMO; it has not yet been done for BC...
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080329183529/memoryalpha/en/images/5/53/Nebula_class%2C_the_changing_face_of_evil.jpg)
The Bonchune CGI variant shown here at the bottom of the page (http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/nebula.htm)
i have always wanted that model as my stock Nebula Class versus the one BC currently has (and every Nebula model done has always been based on the studio model)... i would imagine it wouldnt be too tough to do since it iss all Galaxy Class parts, just reconfigured lol
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yeah it is the CGI model with the standard galaxy class parts - exactly! i sooo much more prefer that one over the studio model...
the CGI model looks much more like the Galaxy Class's "younger brother" and just looks much better, IMO; it has not yet been done for BC...
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080329183529/memoryalpha/en/images/5/53/Nebula_class%2C_the_changing_face_of_evil.jpg)
The Bonchune CGI variant shown here at the bottom of the page (http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/nebula.htm)
i have always wanted that model as my stock Nebula Class versus the one BC currently has (and every Nebula model done has always been based on the studio model)... i would imagine it wouldnt be too tough to do since it iss all Galaxy Class parts, just reconfigured lol
you know CR made one of those a few years ago, right? http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/CR_Nebula_Pack;70908
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OK, how about this...
And this is a request :D
Luna Class
And........... you can make it anytime you want... or not. No pressure.
Seriously, if Jimmy can manage to "capitalize" on what Bones posted then I might as well try to do the same.
Respectfully of course :P
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you know CR made one of those a few years ago, right? http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/CR_Nebula_Pack;70908
it is not the same as the CGI - it is the same as the studio model, ive looked at every nebula in that pack and none of them are based off the CGI model...
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Jimmies right, but i have to say, with an awesome galaxy it wouldn't take you more than 2 hours to model the extra part and texture it - i know this is a massive no, no asking for project's but if an admin can do it, then frack it - i'm game with seeing a nebula too :D *pls* :angel
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guys i really didnt mean to kick off a ship request thread here... i dont feel comfortable putting all this on wiley's shoulders... let's just move on from this point please...
thx :)
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OK, how about this...
And this is a request :D
Luna Class
And........... you can make it anytime you want... or not. No pressure.
Seriously, if Jimmy can manage to "capitalize" on what Bones posted then I might as well try to do the same.
Respectfully of course :P
If I can get off my lazy ass and finish it then we would have a Luna
Guys great work!!!
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If I can get off my lazy ass and finish it then we would have a Luna
:poke: then do it :smack: :funny
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:poke: then do it :smack: :funny
Can't...it's too far awayyyyyyy!!!! :P
Anyways
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No worries eclipse, you've done some great work dude.
Whenever it's done... it's done. :thumbsup:
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That Akira is some great stuff, nice so far. :thumbsup:
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ok heres my attempt at a bop - will be redoing things on it as i improve anyway so keep looking back for an update
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/origins/bop1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/origins/bop2.jpg)
Out of it all its the pipe thats given me the most trouble so may redo it sooner than the rest
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Its looking splendid! I love the details in the bottom-back of the head. Do you plan on making it MVAM?
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Wow, good start there Mr P!
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Its looking splendid! I love the details in the bottom-back of the head. Do you plan on making it MVAM?
3 stages of it indeed
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Nice work! :thumbsup:
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That looks really great!
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Definitely a very fine start! :yay:
And might I suggest looking into ftech instead of MVAM so the wings would drop into battle position at red alert?
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:yeahthat:
Great start btw
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I'll be posting a concept sketch of Med Freighter later. Until then...
Wiley, you fool! Y u make error on Probert-Ambassador aztec? :P
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Definitely a very fine start! :yay:
And might I suggest looking into ftech instead of MVAM so the wings would drop into battle position at red alert?
I believe that there is a Romulan ship in KM that does this very nicely. I would prefer Ftech. But, it is your ship, and I respect that.
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Wiley, you fool! Y u make error on Probert-Ambassador aztec? :P
He did?
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It's offset by 15 degrees. Compare shots of the underside of the saucer between Richter's model and Wiley's.
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It's offset by 15 degrees. Compare shots of the underside of the saucer between Richter's model and Wiley's.
Boo-frickety-hoo. You are correct, and I'm not changing it, at least not for now.
I can't be perfect all the time. :roll
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Hehe, I'm kidding around. 'Tis not really a nitpick, it's just something I noticed while messing around with the model.
It's still one of the damn sexiest ships we have in BC. :P
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The Akira is fully mapped and packed onto 3 2048-px resolution textures. There are some minor areas left to map, but I usually do those when I get to textures.
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Meshes/Star%20Trek%20Invasion%20BC%20Mod%202012/Akira%20Class/wip2.jpg)
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The Akira is fully mapped and packed onto 3 2048-px resolution textures. There are some minor areas left to map, but I usually do those when I get to textures.
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Meshes/Star%20Trek%20Invasion%20BC%20Mod%202012/Akira%20Class/wip2.jpg)
LEAVE IT LIKE THAT!!! - USS PAPER !!! lol thats awesome, mine don't look like that when i map lol
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Texturing has commenced. :)
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Meshes/Star%20Trek%20Invasion%20BC%20Mod%202012/Akira%20Class/wip2_1.jpg)
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The windows look a little bit long, but damn that paneling is awesome. ;)
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The windows look a little bit long, but damn that paneling is awesome. ;)
Agreed. The windows do look just a bit too long. The Akira is a fairly big ship so I can imagine the windows being smaller for proper proportions.
... unless of course the current windows are to "spec".
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Can't wait to see just how this looks when finished! I love the Akira-class, and it desperately needed a new model. Certainly couldn't think of a better modder to do it.
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Me too !
Welcome to the club :yay:
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Can't wait to see just how this looks when finished! I love the Akira-class, and it desperately needed a new model. Certainly couldn't think of a better modder to do it.
I could...DJCurtis.
Wiley is awesome, IMO DJ is just as good - different - but just as good.
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Agreed. The windows do look just a bit too long. The Akira is a fairly big ship so I can imagine the windows being smaller for proper proportions.
... unless of course the current windows are to "spec".
Perhaps each window is 2 decks long?
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DJ's gone :cry:
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DJ's gone :cry:
no he's not!?
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He logged on to the forum two days ago.
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Perhaps each window is 2 decks long?
These are the same style windows as on the Galaxy class saucer. They seem to stretch across the height of an entire deck, and recall that most of the ships we've seen over the years weren't designed from the ground up with maintenance tubes in between the decks as the Sovereign class was. I would guess then that the Akira class doesn't have any Jefferies Tubes between its decks either.
Personally, I think the textures so far look awesome! The best I've seen on a BC Akira model to date.
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The underside of the saucer is nearly done. I never liked the stretched windows on the engineering hull, so I fixed that problem. I also changed the size of the windows on the upper saucer.
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Meshes/Star%20Trek%20Invasion%20BC%20Mod%202012/Akira%20Class/wip2_2.jpg)
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Meshes/Star%20Trek%20Invasion%20BC%20Mod%202012/Akira%20Class/wip2_3.jpg)
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I really like the hull textures but the deflector is not working for me.
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Looking excellent Wiley.
There is something about the deflector though that looks a bit cartoonish. It needs more, I don't know, maybe more facets and even a bit of specularity (maybe not - I'm just aiming for a feel here) to give it more of a "3d" look.
Obviously stick with what the deflector is supposed to look like according to canon but... well, what I suggested above.
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I don't have a problem with the deflector. I expect it'll look better with the alpha glow and speculars in the engine.
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I don't have a problem with the deflector. I expect it'll look better with the alpha glow and speculars in the engine.
I don't have a "problem" with it either per say, just feel that it appears a bit "flat".
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There is something about the deflector though that looks a bit cartoonish. It needs more, I don't know, maybe more facets and even a bit of specularity (maybe not - I'm just aiming for a feel here) to give it more of a "3d" look.
It needs more cowbell. :D
I'll try some more attempts with the deflector, but the coloring is really close.
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i got a FEVER!
and the only prescription...is MORE COWBELL!
:D
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Sorry but... I don't get it?
What's meant when you say "cowbell".
I'm pretty sure it's a joke or something but hey, fill me in :D
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Sorry but... I don't get it?
What's meant when you say "cowbell".
:banghead: You got to be kidding me. :D
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one of the best SNL skits ever...
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I really like how this akira is looking
There is alot of akira for BC but there accucssy
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I guess I interpreted his message on Sov's thread incorrectly
:cancelled:
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Thanks guys... I got it now :hithead:
It's been a long time, I'd forgotten about that skit, it's so friggin' funny.
Anyways, fix that cowbell - I mean deflector :funny
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So I mentioned a while back a sketch coming on the Med Freighter. It's not finished, haven't touched it for a couple days. I have good references, but I made this anyway to sort of conceptualize the geometry better. Some items in the ST:I textures aren't reflected in the model because of its low poly count. This sketch allowed me to refine the design more before modelling begins, which will be soon.
Anyways, here it is:
(http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7510/img005on.jpg)
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Excellent eye for design Farshot. I can visualize that totally as a med freighter.
Cookie.
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So I mentioned a while back a sketch coming on the Med Freighter.
:bow: I can't wait to see this in 3D.
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:bow: I can't wait to see this in 3D.
I can't wait to see more of the Akira, that thing is so damn sexy. :thumbsup:
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Sorry for lack of updates on the Bird Of Prey, Been feeling very ill will update soon, after i've spoken to wiley a bit more :idk:
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Textures are done- that's 2 total textures (3 regular, and 3 specular maps, all at 2048px resolution), and it is ID mapped for multiple registries. Enjoy! :evil:
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Meshes/Star%20Trek%20Invasion%20BC%20Mod%202012/Akira%20Class/wip3.jpg)
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Meshes/Star%20Trek%20Invasion%20BC%20Mod%202012/Akira%20Class/wip3_1.jpg)
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Meshes/Star%20Trek%20Invasion%20BC%20Mod%202012/Akira%20Class/wip3_2.jpg)
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Meshes/Star%20Trek%20Invasion%20BC%20Mod%202012/Akira%20Class/wip3_3.jpg)
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gnarly dude. :bow: awesomeness, cant wait to take this for a spin
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In the words of TOBUSCUS!!!...
Hothothothothothothothothothothothothot...
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I'm having a crisis...
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In the words of TOBUSCUS!!!...
Hothothothothothothothothothothothothot...
lol, another Tobuscus watcher, eh?
And Wiley, you sure those aren't renders of the actual model from First Contact? Have a cookie!
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Awesome work Wiley!
Cookie.
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lol, another Tobuscus watcher, eh?
I think I powered through about one hundred vlogs and all the Literal Trailers yesterday. Damn he's hilarious. I want to be just like him. Bet the girls are just clawing for him. :P
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oh my! :yay:
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Words cannot describe the awesome.
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Dude...I love you man!!! LOL
But seriously....excellent!!!!!!!
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Do want
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Wiley, I just noticed this. The launchers on the bottom of the pod should be three in number, not two. I hate nitpicking this lovely ship sorry! :doh:
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Wiley, I just noticed this. The launchers on the bottom of the pod should be three in number, not two. I hate nitpicking this lovely ship sorry! :doh:
you may be nitpicking, but youre also right ;)
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you may be nitpicking, but youre also right
Yes, he is correct. Can't have too many torpedo launchers can we? It's already ridiculous.
I bet with my next ship, something will be nitpicked, and so on.
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Well, the Akira WAS designed as "torpedo boat/carrier" type ship :P
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Yes, he is correct. Can't have too many torpedo launchers can we? It's already ridiculous.
I bet with my next ship, something will be nitpicked, and so on.
If only you were perfect Wiley there wouldn't be a need for nitpicking :P
I kid it IS reduculous how many launchers are on this ship...
Seriously keep up the good work :)
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If only you were perfect Wiley there wouldn't be a need for nitpicking
After thinking about it, that torpedo area can be easily fixed. At least it's not a major part of the ship.
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After thinking about it, that torpedo area can be easily fixed. At least it's not a major part of the ship.
I figured as much. I mean, just a simple texture alteration should be enough, I'd think.
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I figured as much. I mean, just a simple texture alteration should be enough, I'd think.
And a slight re-model of that area. Very easy to do.
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My personal theory is that there are only about three or four launchers in the pod, and they can rotate to face multiple ejection ports so that torpedoes come out more directed towards their targets. Imagine behind those four tubes on the front/dorsal of the pod is only one launcher and it can arc through the four tubes.
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Not a bad theory actually. Perhaps even (since the Akira is an "older" design), a system meant as a testbed for what would later be used on DS9 ? (rotating torpedo turrets etc).
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I always thought of it as a interchangeable pod like the Nebula which is why it has a launcher in the main body of the ship
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I always thought of it as a interchangeable pod like the Nebula which is why it has a launcher in the main body of the ship
This makes a lot of sense actually. Wasn't the Defiant Class supposed to be one of the first ships designed solely for combat the Federation has built in a long time? Yet the amount of Torpedo launchers the Akira Class has makes her seem like she was a warship and her registry number implies she's older than the Defiant Class which would then mean the Akira was a Federation warship long before the Defiant Class was built. Unless of course your theory is true and the Akira actually had some kind of sensor pod instead. Considering First Contact was the Akira's first appearance and the Dominion had already been encountered at that time, (which was the reason the Defiant was pulled out of storage to begin with), then the Akira could have simply been upgraded with a Torpedo platform to increase her combat rating.
Now I'd kind of like to see what kind of sensor pod the Akira Class might have been fitted with :)
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The Akira is now ingame (fixed the torpedo area as well). :D Enjoy.
I'm now taking a 1-month summer class, so there will be even less updates from me. But once I'm done, I'll resume.
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Bridge%20Commander%20pics/WCAkira1.jpg)
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Bridge%20Commander%20pics/WCAkira2modified.jpg)
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Bridge%20Commander%20pics/WCAkira3.jpg)
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Bridge%20Commander%20pics/WCAkira4.jpg)
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That looks really nicely done, Wiley. I'm glad we will finally have a really nice Akira to play with.
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She looks excellent. I'm curious about your thoughts while building her. Have any comments/critiques of the design, newfound appreciation, anything like that?
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Hi,
Stunning work (as usual) :yay:
Where can I download it ?
One sure thing, I'll rate for it nextly !
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:eek WOW. that is beautiful man. Exceptional work. :thumbsup:
Well deserved cookie.
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Love it Wiley, I think your best work to date. However there seems to be an issue with the nav lights
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However there seems to be an issue with the nav lights
I'll make those colored nav lights smaller. I'm using the JLS Akira hardpoint.
Stunning work (as usual) :yay:
Where can I download it ?
Not out yet.
She looks excellent. I'm curious about your thoughts while building her. Have any comments/critiques of the design, newfound appreciation, anything like that?
I've always liked the Akira- it has a balanced design. Plus, re-imagining the FC Borg battle as I was building her was fun too. :D Constructing the catamarans were probably the hardest part of the design. I also had to invent a way of filling areas of blank hull with something, rather than just plain color.
As usual, I try to make the ship look as close as possible as represented in the movies/shows. Other then that, I knew the ship looked cool, and my interpretation was going to look awesome...it was just a matter of time. Now I'll be able to build ships that also have catamarans...
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Just a question what is this ship scaled to?
IIRC the Akira Saucer should be as wide as the Sovs.
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I've always liked the Akira- it has a balanced design. Plus, re-imagining the FC Borg battle as I was building her was fun too. :D Constructing the catamarans were probably the hardest part of the design. I also had to invent a way of filling areas of blank hull with something, rather than just plain color.
As usual, I try to make the ship look as close as possible as represented in the movies/shows. Other then that, I knew the ship looked cool, and my interpretation was going to look awesome...it was just a matter of time. Now I'll be able to build ships that also have catamarans...
You have really done her justice Wiley. Would love to see your take on the other FC designs. I think she is going to be a fav with me playing BC and making screenshots. Again good job!
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Have a cookie again Wiley, she looks absolutely brilliant!
You have really done her justice Wiley. Would love to see your take on the other FC designs. I think she is going to be a fav with me playing BC and making screenshots. Again good job!
Well, the Steamrunner was in Star Trek Invasion, so that's a possibility.
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Just a question what is this ship scaled to?
IIRC the Akira Saucer should be as wide as the Sovs.
I just did a size comparison to my Nemesis Sovereign, and the Akira's saucer is just as wide as the Sovereign.
Well, the Steamrunner was in Star Trek Invasion, so that's a possibility.
USS Discovery as I recall. It was the ship that was caught in the gravitational pull of a black hole, and you had to rescue its escape pods.
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USS Discovery as I recall. It was the ship that was caught in the gravitational pull of a black hole, and you had to rescue its escape pods.
Yep. Fun times. I remembered mainly cause I booted up Invasion when you started this pack and took a look at all the models to see what exactly you were getting in to. :P
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Outstanding job Wiley :thumbsup:
One thing though, and I realize this may not be canon but, I think the phaser arrays look too "plain" - seems like they just have a greyish flat texture and that's it. It may be because the resolution of your screen shots are not close up enough to the ship to see any details but in case the arrays are actually plain, I feel a model of this high quality should have more detail on the them.
Just my opinion.
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One thing though, and I realize this may not be canon but, I think the phaser arrays look too "plain" - seems like they just have a greyish flat texture and that's it. It may be because the resolution of your screen shots are not close up enough to the ship to see any details but in case the arrays are actually plain, I feel a model of this high quality should have more detail on the them.
They weren't that detailed to begin with.
http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/06/12/alex-jaeger-week-the-akira-class/
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If anything I think they are the same style found on the Galaxy class.
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If anything I think they are the same style found on the Galaxy class.
Time to break out the Galaxy textures. :)
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Loving it!!! Once again I only hope I can master ship-building as well as you have!!!
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They weren't that detailed to begin with.
http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/06/12/alex-jaeger-week-the-akira-class/
I see what you're talking about.
But what I was envisioning is something like what DJ does with his phaser strips: a kind of "ribbing" that I think gives them much more of a functional look.
In any case, it's a masterful work.
Spectacular job dude!
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O.O They look awesome in-game Wiley! Are you sure you didn't just steal that from ILM, and they just blamed it on a "fire"? LMAO
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***IMPORTANT UPDATE***
I am currently taking a summer school class, and I will be unable to mod BC for a month. I'll resume in mid-July.
If any other members of the team are working on their own ships, feel free to post them in this thread. I'll only be able to comment on them.
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Oh NO, wait a month, it's horrible :banghead:
please WC, come back quickly :bow:
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Good luck with your summer school class. :)
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Bout time I started this one. Let's see how far I can get in a week. :P
(http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3531/mf1r.png)
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Taking shape.
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5636/mf1z.png)
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YAY PROGRESS! :funny Nice work. Bring on the detail!
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YAY PROGRESS! :funny
I know, right? Figured I better do something, otherwise you might boot me off the team. :P
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I know, right? Figured I better do something, otherwise you might boot me off the team.
The thought had crossed my mind for other members of the team.. but it's nice to see some people helping. :dance
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A bit more detail.
(http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/8982/mf1.png)
(http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/29/mf2.png)
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Cool. What ship is it?
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Nice start to the med freighter.
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It's a medical freighter.
(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8348/medfreighter.jpg)
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Wow... And I thought Cryptic designs in STO were bad. That being said, I find no faults in your modelling. Just not a fan of the design.
To me, it looks like it's 2 ships (1 of which lacking nacelles), with the other ship being crammed into the first ones back side. If it's supposed to be just 1 ship, then those nacelles look woefully undersized for a ship of it's total size.
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I'm actually planning to incorporate MVAM. The front half is the medical ship and can land on planets to bring aid directly where it is needed. The aft end contains the warp drive systems and remains in orbit. If aid is needed at a secondary location, it can proceed there and do what it can. It is also equipped with first class medical facilities, just to a smaller degree.
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ugh that is one ugly ship...
im sure youll do the best you can, but that design is painful lol
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hi farshot,
The concept of your vessel is original but remember this :
What is the utility of nacelles in Star Trek ?
The nacelles must create a warp bubble (warp field),
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj566/bdfd/Warp_Field.png)
so if you put them far behind, the front of your vessel will be not in the bubble.
Do you understand ?
you can see : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warp_drive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warp_drive)
I propose you to put the nacelles like in the USS Defiant, on each side of the vessel like this for example :
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj566/bdfd/medfreighter_bd.jpg)
It's not a model but just a picture done with paintbrush :)
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As it's not my original design, and I'm only recreating it, I won't be making major changes. If Wiley or Mr. Todisco say to scrap that part of the original design, so be it. For now, I'm only worrying about the forward portion.
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I don't see a problem with maybe making the design flow a little better, similar to Wiley's changes to the Sentinel.
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I like this ship, or at least this half. It sort of reminds me of the holoship.
Or a duck. :P
(http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/3531/mf1r.png)
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Personally , if the nacelles were closer to center mass , I kinda like it, it's different, make Good alien design.
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I like the uniqueness of it.
It is a bit "ugly" as has been said but... not that bad.
This will be a good addition to BC.
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Bit more work done on her.
(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3658/mf1m.png)
(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4116/mf2a.png)
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Honestly, I think with some good detailing and fleshing out, not to mention a good texture job, this ship CAN look good.
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I'll assume that is a vote of confidence. :P
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It is. :thumbsup:
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Seconded.
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looks good. so small craft? like defiant scale?
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I'm guessing it's about the size of an Intrepid. I think that open bay on the ventral side is the shuttle bay and everything else is for medical cargo. My guess is she has some Type 11 shuttles on board, and being that it is from Star Trek: Invasion, can service Valkyrie type fighters.
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Fighters on medical vessel ???
Dou you know the Hippocratic Oath ? :nono:
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I said "can service", in other words, if a Valkyrie is damaged it can land in the bay and be repaired or rearmed in a limited fashion. I said nothing about it carrying them. :readme:
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for injured pilots :yay: :thumbsup:
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A bit more done. I always envisioned the side pods as being full of the "hazardous" cargo, so if containment fails, they can always physically disconnect the pods from the rest of the ship.
Another thing to take notice of is the deflector dish. It's based off of the Pasteur's.
(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/1699/med001.png)
(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5187/med002.png)
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Probably gonna be in the minority when I say I prefer this design to the Pasteur.
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Some saucer detail. Ventral ribbing is up next.
(http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/1699/med001.png)
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Sovereign style ribbing added.
(http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/1699/med001.png)
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Very nice Farshot!
I think the edges of parts of the ship are too sharp though. I believe you would get more realism (and polygons :banghead:) with more rounded off edges.
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It's been my intention to keep this to the angular look of the Sovereign, but perhaps you're right. Have any particular edges in mind to round off?
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Well, the ones that seem to jump out at me the most are the sharp points in the front part of the new ribbing section you recently made. Also, perhaps the outer edge's of the same ribbing in question.
Those are just a couple of examples that stand out. You use your creative judgement for other sections... but keep it subtle... a little here, a little there goes a long way.
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She is shapping up well FarShot, great work
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The Akira Class now has mapped phaser-ribbing. The Borg Tetragon is now ingame (somewhat unstable, might reduce texture size).
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Bridge%20Commander%20pics/WCAkirawithphaserribbing.jpg)
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Bridge%20Commander%20pics/WCBorgTetragon1.jpg)
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two words:
1. cookie
2. amazing
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:eek That Akira still looks gorgeous, and a new Borgie to play with! Have your 850th cookie Wiley!
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:bow:
The phaser ribbing improves what was an already outstanding ship!
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Cranking it up to 11 I see. :yay:
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Stunning wih a big S Mister WC :dance :yay: :bow:
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Well done Wiley.
You have a gift dude and thanks for sharing it with us.
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beautiful work as always Wiley :D
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Awesome work on the Akira. :thumbsup:
Nice work from all the "Loonatics",,, :)
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Indeed great work
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Holy moly............... :drool:
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Is there anyway to play this game rommed or anything as its so old now
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Is there anyway to play this game rommed or anything as its so old now
All we can suggest is go out and buy the game from an online store and mod it from there.
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All we can suggest is go out and buy the game from an online store and mod it from there.
I have to agree with Shadow here. Make sure it's a legal copy/disc though. BCC doesn't, and will never, condone warez stuff (nor mentioning it, be warned).
Now let's get back on topic shall we? :)
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Wooo. Guys chill...i mean the ps1 ivastion game not bc.. I got by off ebay fully boxed and unopened for 5 quid... Twit didnt know whst he had lol u guys do jump at people quick instead of asking what i ment gee
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Either way you would have gotten the same response. We're not upset with you, we just wanted you to know the rules.
- BCC does not support piracy, do not discuss piracy in any shape or form on these forums
EDIT: Here's an ebay listing for Star Trek Invasion (http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=Star+Trek+Invasion+Playstation&_sacat=0&_odkw=Star+Trek+Invasion&_osacat=0)
And I will say it again, let's get back on topic!!!
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Wiley, how did you guys do the indentations for the windows on the Akira hull. It's amazing, and looks fantastic. I would like to try and duplicate the effect on the Rigel Class.
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Wiley, how did you guys do the indentations for the windows on the Akira hull.
It is simply a beveled effect in Photoshop. The windows are never modeled in.
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Here's a little something I started a few weeks back. :evil:
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd223/WileyCoyote1701/Meshes/Star%20Trek%20Invasion%20BC%20Mod%202012/Typhon/wip1.jpg)
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OH MY GOD YES! Insta-cookie! :D
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Was wondering how much longer it would be before this ship was started. Cookie for this ship and the other new ship in your main WIP thread. :yay: